Since we have to reprint all Family Name Cards for each ordinance to be done, I have suggestions:
Since we have to reprint all Family Name Cards for each ordinance to be done (which i really don't like), I have the following suggestions:
1) Be able to print the next ordinance Family Name Card from the Completed list. If more than a few ordinances have been completed, such as for Baptisms/Confirmations, it can be a real pain to find the names in the reservation list to print out the next ordinance Family Name Cards. My suggestion to help this issue is to be able to print the next ordinance Family Name Cards from the completed list.
2) Organize the completed ordinance list by Date and Ordinance, so if we can complete multiple different ordinances in the temple on a single date, we don't have to search through all the completed ordinances for that date to find the list of completed names for each type of ordinance completed.
3) If Family Name Cards are printed from the reservation list instead of from the individual name ordinance list, the printed date is GMT instead of local date and time. That can cause some confusion.
4) A better solution to the printed date on Family Name Cards problem listed in 3) above would be to print the Reservation Date and Time instead of the Printed date and time. My wife and I find the printed date to be of little value. The reservation list seems to be organized by reservation date and it would help us if the date on the Family Name Card was the Reservation Date and Time. That correlates better to the reservation list.
5) If a Family Search patron has an ordinance reserved for a name in Family Search and that name gets deleted via merge or changed for any other reason by someone other that the patron who has the reservation, it would be helpful if the patron who has the reservation affected by the change would be notified that a change has been made to the name in Family Search.
Thank you for hearing my suggestions.
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Thomas
FYI
There MAY, in fact, actually be, a 'Topic' of "Temple", in the "Ideas" ('Feedback') Section; but, such, is just NOT yet, available; or, working, at this time, for us 'lowly Users/Patrons - possibly STILL a 'work in progress'.
I believe that 'FamilySearch', may be trying to work on, the ability to "Restrict", access to some, 'Categories' (ie, 'Q and A'); and/or, 'Topics' (ie. 'Ideas'); specifically, for those Users/Patrons who are Members of the Church; as, at the moment, ALL 'Categories' (ie, 'Q and A'); and/or, 'Topics' (ie. 'Ideas') are (generally) accessible to ALL Users/Patrons (regardless if one is a Member of the Church or not).
It may seem a simple task; but, I would humbly suggest that making such happen, is a lot harder that many of us think. As, there are TWO (x2) Programmes; and, Platforms, involved, they being, 'FamilySearch'; and, the "External" Programme that powers and is used by the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, they MUST "synchronise' and 'mess', together, 'seamlessly, through an INTERFACE.
And. of course, "Temple" Work is one of those, 'Categories' (ie, 'Q and A'); and/or, 'Topics' (ie. 'Ideas'), that ONLY pertains to those User/Patrons who are Members of the Church.
The 'Groups' in the "Groups" Section are slightly different; as, 'Groups' can have a number of status'.
▬ Public ... [ ie. ANY Participant (ie. User/Patron) can "Join" ]
▬ Private ... [ ie. Participant (ie. User/Patron) can must REQUEST to "Join" ]
..................... [ One MUST be authorsied/approved to become a member - eg. need to meet certain criteria ]
▬ Visible, to the 'lowly Users/Patrons (ie. general)
▬ Hidden, to the 'lowly Users/Patrons (ie. general) ... [ Generally, for those in "Admin" of 'FamilySearch' ]
I know that this does not help; but, I hope that this gives yo some more perspective.
Brett
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Thank you for your suggestions.
We encourage you to add them to a post (can cut and paste them) in the Ideas section of Communities. Click on the Ideas icon in the bar on the left side of the page, then add it to the Temple section.
This is our new feedback feature.
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I must be blind, but I don't find any ideas section of Communities. Maybe, I am not looking in the correct place.
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Okay, I found the Ideas section of Communities. But, I then can't determine a way to give my ideas when in the Ideas section.
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After you click on the Ideas icon, then click on the Temple Section.
After that page opens, there is a blue bar just to the right of Temples that you click. Once you click it you are able to add you suggestions.
Here is a screen shot showing the blue bar
Let me know if you have any other problems with it.
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Since we have to reprint all Family Name Cards for each ordinance to be done (which i really don't like), I have the following suggestions:
1) Be able to print the next ordinance Family Name Card from the Completed list. If more than a few ordinances have been completed, such as for Baptisms/Confirmations, it can be a real pain to find the names in the reservation list to print out the next ordinance Family Name Cards. My suggestion to help this issue is to be able to print the next ordinance Family Name Cards from the completed list.
2) Organize the completed ordinance list by Date and Ordinance, so if we can complete multiple different ordinances in the temple on a single date, we don't have to search through all the completed ordinances for that date to find the list of completed names for each type of ordinance completed.
3) If Family Name Cards are printed from the reservation list instead of from the individual name ordinance list, the printed date is GMT instead of local date and time. That can cause some confusion.
4) A better solution to the printed date on Family Name Cards problem listed in 3) above would be to print the Reservation Date and Time instead of the Printed date and time. My wife and I find the printed date to be of little value. The reservation list seems to be organized by reservation date and it would help us if the date on the Family Name Card was the Reservation Date and Time. That correlates better to the reservation list.
5) If a Family Search patron has an ordinance reserved for a name in Family Search and that name gets deleted via merge or changed for any other reason by someone other that the patron who has the reservation, it would be helpful if the patron who has the reservation affected by the change would be notified that a change has been made to the name in Family Search.
Thank you for hearing my suggestions.
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I'm sorry if my instructions were not clear but you have reposted your suggestions in the Q and A section.
You need to go to the Ideas section and click the Temple icon. You should find the New Ideas blue button at the top of that page in the left hand corner as shown in the snip it in my previous post.
Another way to access the New Idea button is to click on a post in the the Temple area of the Idea Section. Just to the right of a post you will find the same New Ideas blue button.
If you are still having trouble finding it, please let me know.
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I am doing something wrong. I can see a Temple selection in the Q and A tab on the left side of the screen. But, when I select Ideas on the left side off the screen, I do not find any Temple icon selection and I have never discovered any method to post my suggestions. I just discovered that by selecting a current Idea, I can the post a new Idea ( i think this is part of what you are saying). However, I still can't find the Temple icon in the Ideas section.
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Looking at your example, I can't find a way to get to:
Home Ideas Temple
I can get to
"Home ideas", but never
"Home Ideas Temple"
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After selecting "Ideas" on the left panel, I get the following selections:
FamilySearch Community
Family Tree
Family History Centers
General User Update
Indexing
Memories
Records
Research Tools
RootsTech
Serving in Family History
Sources
Other
I wonder if Help is not recognizing I am a Member of the church?
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Have you signed into Communities? It is a different sign in than FS but same UN and password. Look up in the right hand corner next to the circle with the question mark and click sign in. If you have already signed into Communities and still do not see the Temple section in Ideas, maybe you are not signed into your member account. Is it possible that you have two accounts, a member and a public account?
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i AM NOT AWARE OF ANY SECOND ACCOUNT. WHEN I CLICK ON THE GREY CIRCLE IN THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER, MY fAMILYSEARCH NAME SHOWS IN THE POP-UP. Still no Temple icon when I am in the ideas section.
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If you see your name then you are signed in. When you are in FS, do you see Temple ordinances? If you do, then you are in a member account.
What browser are you using.? Sometimes it helps to switch browsers.
We also recommend clearing cookies and cache and then restarting your computer. You can clear cookies just from FS and if it still doesn't help, you can clear them from your browser. Below is a link to these instructions.
Let me know if any of these steps work.
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I have been thinking about this. I see the Temple icon when in the Q and A section, but not when in the Ideas section, so at least some of the time, the system knows I am a member. When I am in FS, I do see the Temple ordinances. My suggestions are all related to printing Family Name Cards/seeing Temple ordinances/reservation date order of Temple ordinance reservations/keeping track of Temple ordinances. Really, my wife and I use FS to do Temple ordinances. Since the Temple no longer returns Family Name Cards, a higher percentage of our time is spent in FS around Temple ordinances and less time doing Family History.
Would it help to put my suggestions in the Q and A Temple section?
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Just jumping in to your thread. I too am a member of the Church and I also DO NOT see any section under Ideas called Temple.
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I am so sorry this is happening. Let me consult with my supervisors to see if they have suggestions.
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I have asked my supervisors about this issue. They have tried to replicate the issues and cannot. They tried in different browser
When signed in as a member, you will see both the Temple section in the Q and A and ALSO in the Idea area. When not signed in at all, or signed in with a public account, then you can see the Temple section in the Q and A but NOT in the Idea Area.
Have you tried switching browsers? Refer to the article below to see what browsers we support and which versions we support.
Also, did you clear cookies and cache, both in FS and then in the browser if needed?
If none of this works, the only other option I have is to have you post your suggestions in the Other section of Ideas and then I can move it to the Temple section. Let me know if and when you do this so I can locate it.
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I am on a desktop Computer, running Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, version 21H1, OS Build 19043.1165, Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0, Browser: Mozilla Firefox 91,0.1 (64-bit).
I am a member of the church. I am signed in. I can't leave a comment without signing in.
I don't know what else to do. I will try clearing cookies. I cleared all recent history including cookies, shutdown Firefox, and restarted Firefox. I still can't see any Temple icon in the Ideas section
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I cleared FS cookies and browser cookies - no change.
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Are there other people adding ideas to the Temples Ideas section - besides Moderators? I don't think this section has been turned on to users yet.
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I tend to agree with Amy. Nothing I do lets me see the Temple icon in the Ideas section. I've cleared cookies. I've restarted my computer. I've tried using Microsoft Edge, version 92.0.902.73 (Official Build) (64-bit). Nothing changes.
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The entire IDEAS section has been broke for a few weeks (for those who are NOT moderators)
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Thank you for trying all the suggestions and we are so sorry it is still not working. It looks like it is an issue that needs to be worked on.
If you would like to post your suggestions in the Other section of Ideas, I will move it to the Temple section. Let me know when and if you do so I can watch for it.
Again, sorry for this current inconvenience.
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I have posted my suggestions in the Other section of Ideas. Thank you to all of you for your replies.
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And, other Moderators
FYI
The LACK (ie. 'Missing in Action') of a 'Link'/'Button', to Create a NEW "Idea", from ANY of the various 'Topics', is a KNOWN problem/issue, that IS (already) being investigated.
Please refer:
"Ideas" Section.
'Topic' = "FamilySearch Community"
Raised: 10 August 2021
Fault / Flaw; or, By Design? FYI. We can NO LONGER submit a NEW IDEA from (within) a (ANY) 'Topic'!
As an aside ...
There are alternatives/'work arounds' ...
At this present time, it appears that some of the the ways (of course, there may be others) to create and submit a "NEW Idea" are through the following, 'work arounds':
Options
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- A User/Patron (Participant) can go to their "My Discussions"
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussions/mine
- The "New Discussion" 'link'/'button', is located on the 'right-hand-side' of the page/screen.
- Select the "Triangle', on the 'right-hand-side' of that ("New Discussion").
- On the resulting "Drop Down" List, select "New Idea", at the 'Bottom' of the List.
- That will create, the template, for the submission, of a NEW "Idea".
- One MUST, select a particular 'Topic' (ie. "Category") in which to submit a post.
- The rest should be easy to follow/do (ie. Add a 'Title'; Add one's 'Idea'; Save)
OR
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- Here are the DIRECT 'links'/URLs, to allow one, to create a NEW "Idea", in each particular 'Topic'
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/familysearch-community
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/familytree
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/familysearch-centers
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/general-user-interface
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/indexing
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/memories-photos-stories-ideas
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/records-searching-viewing
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/research-tools
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/rootstech-idea
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/serving-in-family-history
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/sources
- https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/other
OR
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- Alternately, a somewhat more complex method:
- Go to, a particular 'Topic', under the "Ideas" (ie. 'Feedback') Section
- Select an "Idea" ALREADY submitted/posted, in that 'Topic'.
- In that "Idea", that has been selected, select that "New Idea" 'link'/'button', on the 'right-hand-side'.
- That will create, the template, for the submission, of a NEW "Idea", in that particular 'Topic'.
I hope this may help, somewhat.
Brett
ps: Moderators: Please pass this around, amongst yourselves ... until the problem/issue is rectified.
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Thank you. However, I still don't find the "Temple" topic under the Ideas section in your direct link list, which tells me the Temple topic is not available in the Ideas section. I created the direct link: https://community.familysearch.org/en/post/idea/temple and when I try to access the Temple topic in the Idea section, I get a warning stating I don't have permission.
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Thank you. I am retired now and my life revolves around going to the temple to performs ordinances for the dead, which has me using FS a lot. I am definetly not what might be considered a power user, but I usually get stuff done I need done.. My previous life was as a software engineer in Avionics and not databases. So, I somewhat understand what you are getting at. I am truely amazed the Family Search database works as well as it does considering the world in which it lives. Hats off to all of you.
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The above comment was in response to a message sent to me by Brett. Again, thank you.
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