Why is the Ordinance Ready option allowing ordinances to be done out of order?
Many times I have received a notification that a name I have shared with the temple has had an ordinance done such as SS before any of the other ordinances have been done for the person. It seems like there should be some filter for this so they are done in order like we have been asked to do.
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We understand that you are seeing sealing to spouse ordinances that you have shared with the temple being completed before the prerequisite ordinances.
Here are links to two articles in our Help Center:
Sealing a couple before doing other ordinances • FamilySearch
"Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed. "
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Well, I noticed in the new Church Handbook the following instructions:
Section 28.2.3
"The ordinances of baptism, confirmation, initiatory, and endowment MUST have been performed, either in life or by proxy, before a deceased person can be sealed to a spouse or to his or her parents."
I added the caps and bolds. I wonder if the Brethren know that the Family Search software is making it common for this policy to be violated?
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Carol
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
[ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]
Further to what has already been proffered ...
This is an ongoing dilemma, for many Members of the Church.
The matter, has been canvased, on numerous occasions, in the various 'iterations' for the 'FamilySearch' Forums.
One does not really have to be too concerned ...
We have been advised, that regardless if "Ordinances" are done 'Out of Sequence', not to worry; as, those "Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' simply DO NOT take effect, UNTIL the prerequisite "Ordinances" are "Completed".
And, most importantly ...
"Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' DO NOT have to be done again; as, they are STILL "Valid".
Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch':
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
Which states, among other things:
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Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Of course ...
Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?
Where it states, among other things:
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- The ordinances were inadvertently or intentionally performed out of order in error.
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Plus ...
Most IMPORTANTLY ...
In one of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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It is preferable to have the ordinances done in sequence
[ Note: The Words ... It is preferable ]
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And ...
In the other of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
It also states, among other things:
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A deceased couple can be sealed before their individual ordinances are done. Likewise, a deceased child can be sealed to deceased parents before the parents are sealed and before the parents’ individual ordinances are done.
If a sealing ordinance was done out of order, you should simply make sure that the rest of the ordinances get done . You do not need to report the issue to FamilySearch Support. Nor do you need to redo the sealing. The sealing becomes valid after the individual ordinances are done.
[ And, once again ... ]
Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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Now ...
All That Said ...
As proffered by 'Gordon' ...
Here is a reference, specifically about "OrdinancesReay", regarding "Sealing to Spouse".
"Knowledge Article", in 'FamilySearch':
How do I find family names for the temple with Ordinances Ready?
It also states, among other things:
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Before you start
Notes:
- Ordinances Ready does not determine if pre-requisite ordinances have been completed when sealing-to-spouse ordinances are requested. Please ensure that baptism, initiatory and endowment have been completed for each individual before proceeding with a sealing ordinance.
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So ...
That Said ...
Really ...
The choice is yours ...
As, to whether or not, you proceed, with the "Ordinances", that you received through "OrdinancesReady".
Plus ...
As an aside ...
Some Users/Patrons, may be DIRECTLY "Related" to either, the Husband; or, the Wife; and, therefore, consider, according to THEIR understanding, of the "Policies" and "Directions", for "Temple" Work, that they CAN do, the "Sealing to Spouse"; but, should NOT do, the OTHER (in fact, Prerequisite, Work), for the other party; as, they are NOT directly related to the other party - and, they CANNOT be forgiven, for such consideration/thinking.
And ...
Remember, that the "Temple" Work, of "Sealing to Parents", relates to the Child; and, NOT, the to Parents.
So ...
That Said ...
Regardless, of the status, of "Temple" Work, of the Parents, the "Sealing to Parents", for a Child, CAN be undertaken.
I know, that this might not give you comfort and address your concerns; but, I hope that this gives you some additional, insight; and, more perspective.
Brett
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