I have the LDS baptism date of Christian (female) Brown and want to insure it is accurate.
She is said to have been baptized 4 May 1854 in Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland. If you find it please give me all the information connected to the source.
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Hello @DonHSmith1.
Would you please provide the ID number for Christian Brown? We need to be able to look at the record in order to understand your question.
Thanks.
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For 50 years I have been studying the Willie Handcart Company's history and its members. One of its members was listed as a 26 Year old Christina Brown). She came on the Ship Enoch Train where she is listed as 26 year old Chrisiana Brown from Airdrie, Scotland. She Joined the handcart company in the Iowa City Camp but left the Company at Fort Laramie. After years of search I concluded she was the daughter of Christina (Christian-female) Thompson KWVP-PCN who is recorded to have joined the Church in 1843. She and two of her younger daughters emigrated to Utah in 1868 aboard the Constitution and traveled to Utah in the John Gillaspie Company. Several family members have claimed the daughter of KWVP-PCN was KF45-9C8 but I refute that claim and have changed the information on familysearch.org. Somewhere in my research I found the a Christina Brown born 19 July 1930 was baptized 5 May 1854 into the Church in Airdrie. It may have come from one of the old index cards or from other Church records that are not on line . I need the source of that information to show the related families part of my reasons for changing the records. Don Smith
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Hello, Don.
I see that you deleted the parent-child relationship of Christina Brown KF45-9C8 and added Christian Brown GZYB-STN -- I presume as a placeholder.
I looked for a Christian/Christina Brown in Genealogies born 19 July 1830, but did not find anything. I also looked for the same person in Family Tree and nothing promising came up in the first couple of pages of results.
I would suggest that you add the exact birth date and place to the record you created for Christian Brown, as well as any other information you may have for her. Maybe a duplicate will come up for her.
In the meantime, there is an Endowment Index, covering the years 1842-1970. I list the information about this index here, as you mentioned the old TIB index cards.
Endowment Index (1842–1970).[edit | edit source]
This important source is sometimes called the TIB.
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Temple Records Index Bureau.Endowment Index, 1842–1969. Salt Lake City, Utah: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1973, 1975, 1977–1979, 1991. (On 3081 FHL films beginning with 1267592). It is restricted. This indexes more than 30 million people who received their endowments in life or by proxy from 1842 to 1970. These films are available at Brigham Young University, and in Special Collections at the Family History Library. For more information on how to use this index see:
A Brief Guide to the Temple Records Index Bureau. Revised Edition. Research Papers (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical Department), Series F, no. 2. Salt Lake City, Utah: The Department, 1976. (FHL book 929.1 G286gs Ser. F No. 2 1976; fiche 6031506). This is a 16-page guide.
There is a list of suggestions in the same Wiki article about finding the living baptism dates of early converts. You may have already done some of this:
Living Baptisms (1829–present)[edit | edit source]
While most living baptisms are not performed in the temple, baptism is part of the information often verified by submitters before contributing four-generation information to Ancestral File.
Baptisms (Before 1983). See Ward Membership Records of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for more information.
It may seem formidable to locate the birth origins of early converts of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Also, left unanswered and often "lost" are the numerous early converts, who, after baptism never made it across the ocean, nor across the vast country to re-settle in "Zion" but remained in the country of origin or state. How can these "lost sheep of Israel" be found and their birth origins discovered and it might legitimately be asked: How may these living baptismal ordinances be discovered, and these early members (spiritually) rescued?
Here are a few steps and points researchers can take and ought to bear in mind, which may lead towards finding such important information as a convert's birth place, birth date, parents' names, place[s] of residence, marriage date and place, burial date and place, and priesthood ordination[s], name[s] of baptizing elders and etc.:
1) Search for earlier recorded baptismal dates by searching for their names in the Family Tree
2) In branch records identified in the Family History Library Catalog/FamilySearch Catalog: Click "Keyword"; type [name of the] State or County or Province; then type "LDS" or "Branch" or "Conference"
3) Most early living baptisms have been captured via indexing and are now included (mostly) in the Family Tree.
4) Some branch records were never microfilmed and thus never indexed, so the original branch membership records must be searched. Those few which have thus far been identified as not having been indexed include--about 25 branches in the City of Nauvoo; approximately 22 branches for Winter Quarters, Nebraska, and around 15 branches in the Missouri Valley; and one or more for possibly South Africa. Many saints passed through these places, and searches ought to be made in these records. They are usually available at the Church History Library and are in the process of being digitally scanned by the Church History Department.
Finally, maybe you can get some ideas on where to search from this Wiki article:
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