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ChiuChungLi
ChiuChungLi ✭
July 15, 2021 in Temple

Hi,

I have reserved some names under "Temple". I noticed the system allows me to filter. When I select "Seal to Parents" or "Seal to Spouse" for the names that I reserved, I found that many names are shown for printing. I assume I could perform the sealings for them because they were shown after I filtered them. But to my surprise, I found many of the names that were filtered and shown have not been endowed. My understanding is that any person can't be sealed to his or her spouse or parents unless he or she is endowed. So here is my question: how would the system allow me to print the names even when they have not completed their "Endowments"? Couldn't the system ONLY show the names of those people whose endowments were completed for sealing purposes? Thanks.

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  • Gordon Hunter1
    Gordon Hunter1 mod
    July 15, 2021

    ChiuChungli

    I hope this answers your question

    Below is the correct list that ordinances should be performed in the Temple, if the Sealing to Spouse and Sealing takes place before the Endowment has been carried out, they do not become effective until after the Endowment has taken place.

    Please perform temple ordinances in the correct sequence. Perform individual ordinances before sealings. The FamilySearch Family Tree website does not clear ordinances if prerequisite ordinances have not been cleared or performed.

    The correct sequence of ordinances is as follows:

    • Baptism.
    • Confirmation.
    • Initiatory.
    • Endowment.
    • Sealing of a husband and wife and sealing of children to parents (if possible). Whenever possible, parents should be sealed to each other before the children are sealed to the parents.

    Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.

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  • Gordon Hunter1
    Gordon Hunter1 mod
    July 15, 2021

    Here is the knowledge article that was used for the correct sequence of Temple Ordinaces.

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 15, 2021

    @ChiuChungLi

    G'Day

    I am just another 'lowly User/Patron ...

    [ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]

    I totally understand your 'Question' and premise ...

    Of course, the PREFERENCE is, to DO, all the other PREREQUISITE "Ordinances"; BEFORE, "Sealing to Spouse".

    But ...

    That Said ...

    Please be aware that, the 'Debate" has raged on for MANY Years ...

    .

    In regard to your 'Questions" ...

    .

    Short Answer, FIRST 'Question':

    Reason = Regarding the PREREQUISITE "Ordinances being done FIRST "... it is not required in order to perform the Sealing to Spouse".

    Please refer to the following "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch':

    Sealing a couple before doing other ordinances

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/sealing-a-couple-before-doing-other-ordinances

    Where it states:

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    Whenever possible, a couple should be endowed before being sealed to each other. 

    However, it is not required in order to perform the sealing to spouse.

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    Please take note of those FIRST two Words ... Whenever possible ...

    NOTHING, is set in stone ...

    None of us are PERFECT ...

    We DO NOT live in a PERFECT World ...

    We ALL make MISTAKES ...

    .

    And, this is further supported by this next "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch':

    Ordinances performed out of order

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order

    Where it states:

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    Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed. 

    It is preferable to have the ordinances done in sequence.

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    Please take note of those FIRST three Words in that last sentence ... It is preferable ...

    ie. Basically ...

    NOT ... Absolute

    NOT ... Mandatory

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    Short Answer, SECOND 'Question': Due to the aforementioned in regard to your FISRT 'Question' ▬ "No".

    .

    Plus ...

    Here is even another "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch':

    Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/why-are-the-temple-ordinance-dates-out-of-order-in-family-tree

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    I know that this does not support your premise; but, I really hope that this provides you with some perspective.

    Brett

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