Changes Issues
Just noticed that someone went in and changed the explanation that I had for my Grandpa Emhuff’s name. My Dad is the only son, and I am the oldest daughter/granddaughter. This person put language. My Dad and I don’t like that. We want it to read that his name came from his baptismal record from Immanuel Lutheran Church in Seymour, Jackson County, Indiana. There are people who aren’t related to him at all changing stuff. I would like to be contacted before making changes; etc. I wouldn’t go in and change stuff on someone’s grandparents. Please respect our decision here!!! If you see something not kosher then contact me, and I will definitely take a look at it!
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Hi Betsy We understand your concern about others changing your comments. Family tree is a collaborative tree where the single record for deceased people is shared by everyone. Since it is collaborative, you should message or email the person making the changes and explain what you would like and ask them where they are getting their information. Remember others can not see your living record. People working on your grandfather's record could be your cousins for example. You likely know most or all your first cousins, and perhaps many of your second cousins (common great grandparents). Few of us would know all our 3rd cousins (common 2g grandparents) and on back. But these are all people that could be working on your grandfather's record. They may not know how you are related since they can't see your records. So it is best if you can message them. You can also make the changes back to your grandfather's record although it would be best if you can contact the other person. There is also a feature on family search where you can request to view relationship to other users. Here is an article about that. We would suggest you enable this feature if you haven't already.
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I have the feature enabled. This person went in and changed the explanation why we want is name the way it is. I really think Family Search needs to change there policies. Ridiculous how people can go in and mess with your grandparents. They need to message a person first before changing things. That allows the person who created the person to go do further research if need be!
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FS Users dont "own" the information in FamilySearch - even if its for their own ancestors - or even if they input it.
People who really do want to keep the records in exactly the same way that they entered it - with no chance of others changing it - should be using a locally installed genealogical program - Roots Magic, FTM, Ancestry Quest etc. (where they have 100% control of the data)
FamilySearch on the other hand is totally by design and intention - a shared collaboratiave system - where all users have the ability to update a records - and no single user "has ownership" of the data.
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I am so sorry but I agree with Brett! That person had no reason to change my reason why MY Grandpa’s name was correct! It was correct in the first place, and the individual went in and put “language,” which is NOT a good reason, and in which my Dad and I don’t want!!!!
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@Wayland K Adams & @Dennis J Yancey
Wayland & Dennis
Please, be advised; and, aware, of ...
The 'Context', of 'Betsy's' reference to me, was in relation to 'Participants' in this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, taking it upon themselves, to make "Changes" the "Details", of individuals/persons, in another User's/Patron's (ie. 'Participants'), "Ancestral" Lines; WHEN, they are NOT (actually, directly) "Related" in/through those "Ancestral" Lines; and/or, the other User/Patron, HAS requested, them to do so.
Please refer to this post:
"Ideas" Section
'Topic' = "Family Tree"
Home > Ideas > Family Tree
Changes Made (My Direct Line)
https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/89689/changes-made-my-direct-line
That 'Context' is very important, in relation to this current post of 'Betsy'.
'Thank You' in advance.
Humbly, submitted for your, information; attention; and, consideration.
Kind Regards.
MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU IN THIS IMPORTANT WORK
Yours Faithfully,
Brett
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understood
but FS by design allows people to update any record in the system.
we are not restricted to only our own relatives - nor do we "own" the records for our own direct line ancestors.
I do totally agree however in the general spirit of what is being discussed - that people should be tactful and respectful in cases like this - but we have to realize its a collaborative system - where sooner or later - depending on how far you go back - other people will make changes to our own lines. We all have to respectuflly work together in harmony as best as is possible
With the Family Bible Project I over see for example - where we upload info based on Family Bible records - I update hundreds or thousands of records that are not my own ancestors - but ancestors of other people. I do it every day - and I do my best to update what I believe is accurate info - and if someone brought up an issue - I would, if they were family - do my best to respect their wishes.
I do totally agree that in general we should be very respectful of the feelings and comments of the descendants of people we update and take into consideration their feelings.
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but yes - if you believe the name was correct as it was
then YES - contact the person who made the change - and respectfully ask why they changed it - and let them know you are a descendant - and in the vast majority of cases - you change it back the way you want - and it would normally stay.
Im just saying that none of us have "ownership" of the data from a systematic perspective just because we are direct line descendants.
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Have a good evening!
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