Ordinance permission
I have printed ordinance cards for (GCTK-SQC) who falls within the 110 year rule. I would like permission to complete ordinances for (GCTK-Z4Q) & (GCTK-FQ2). The permission form does not come up for either of these people. Would you please send permission to the e-mail attached to this account. There are no other living people in this family. Thank you.
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Hello @thomaslr
Because the permission form does not come up for those individuals, that would suggest that FamilySearch is not recognising a relationship between you and the individuals.
Temple policy is that for individuals born within the last 110 years we need to be related and we need to obtain permission from a close living relative.
So your options are:
- correct the relationships so a relationship to you shows and then the form should come up; or
- obtain permission from a close relative and have the relative sign a permission letter (the required wording is outlined in the knowledge article which is posted below). Then reach out here to have a FamilySearch missionary private message you so you can post the permission letter in a private message.
The relevant knowledge articles are ....
This one shows the correct wording for the permission letter.
All the best
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There is not a section where the deceased whilst living has asked of one to do their work after deceased.
I have experienced a number of elderly non member individuals (since returning to the gospel 6 years ago) seeking support to help them return to Heavenly Fathers care.
Our rural community is very small and everyone knows and is related to each other.
My parents were held in high regard in the community, especially Mum whose grandfather converted many of his Tribal family into the gospel.
Great-grandfather Heremia ensured a House of Prayer was erected on his ancestral lands, enjoyed by many of his relatives regardless of their respective Faith.
Sadly that building was used for alernative means once our Ward Chapel was built.
Well before mum's passing she left her Book of Remembrance to her inactive daughter myself. I had at that time 4 very very active sisters, however 4 very inactive brothers.
Mum was like an historian in the community, so I guess when word got out I now had those records, I was sought for family link to land.
I now understand why Mum left me her Book of Remembrance, and are sharing those many many many many written names with family throughout the world to complete until our New Zealand Hamilton Temple is rededicated.
As eluded to earlier, I have had elderly distant related individuals ask of myself to take their name through the Temple after their passing.
I always ask where they're going to when they die. The answer provided is often where their loved ones are buried. Acknowledging, my response is, that's your physical body, where is your spiritual body going. Their response always is their first finger pointing upwards.
Awesome I say, but how are you going to get there? Their response always being - their first finger pointing back at me.
It seems they know where they're going, but need someone of our faith to help them get there.
I agree to do, my response being, I can only do if you tell your children what you wish me to do, and I have to be assured they acknowledge YOUR DESIRE.
To date, I am unable to fulfill - as their is no section availed - for permission from deceased.
Nga arohanui
Sister Esther Foster 😇
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Hello @Rangapupani - Esther Foster (Hakopa)
I am sorry to tell you that the person giving permission must be a close living relative. That is why there is no option to indicate that you have permission from the deceased person themselves.
Here is the relevant part from the knowledge article - "Permission granted by a deceased person before death does not qualify. Permission must come from a close living relative."
What you can do, is add the information you have about your friends and relatives to FamilySearch. Ask around your village and ask the person's family for information, and then add records to FamilySearch for all of the relatives. Hopefully you will be able to work out how you are related to the person.
For individuals born in the last 110 years we need to obtain permission to perform the ordinances from one of their close relatives. For Temple Policy a close relative is defined as a spouse, a child, a parent or a brother or sister.
If you can get permission from a close relative and you are unable to establish you relationship, then as indicated previously, use the information in this knowledge article - https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/can-i-request-proxy-temple-ordinances-for-a-friend
If you are unable to work out how you are related, then at least the record is available in FamilySearch for a future relative to find.
Sorry for the news you didn't want to hear.
kind regards
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