Different treatment for England & Wales Birth vs Death index Registrations
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Stewart Millar said: I have asked this question in different ways over the past year with no FS response.
The difference is clearly seen in the search results list - as follows:
You can see that "Death Registration" is set up to update the "Death" in the Vitals section.
Wheras the "Birth Registration" is set up to be added to "Others" and does not update the "Birth" in the Vitals section.
Effectively - the "Birth Registration" is not being evaluated as evidence for the Birth - whereas the "Death Registration" is considered as evidence for the Death.
What is intensly irritating is to have to back track on each birth registration attachment to Tag it to the birth - which it clearly is evidence for.
My experience is that this did work correctly up until about a year or so ago - where the "Birth Registration" was correctly tagged to the Birth.
The difference is clearly seen in the search results list - as follows:
You can see that "Death Registration" is set up to update the "Death" in the Vitals section.
Wheras the "Birth Registration" is set up to be added to "Others" and does not update the "Birth" in the Vitals section.
Effectively - the "Birth Registration" is not being evaluated as evidence for the Birth - whereas the "Death Registration" is considered as evidence for the Death.
What is intensly irritating is to have to back track on each birth registration attachment to Tag it to the birth - which it clearly is evidence for.
My experience is that this did work correctly up until about a year or so ago - where the "Birth Registration" was correctly tagged to the Birth.
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Paul said: Stewart
There is some inconsistency about the death detail. I will try to find some examples, but believe deaths in more recent years are recorded as registrations, so (like births) are not carried across to the death field when attaching the source.0 -
Paul said: Yes, check https://www.familysearch.org/search/r.... The 2005 & 2006 records are from the England Death Record 1998-2015 collection and the others from the England & Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 collection.
You will see they are marked as "death" and "other", respectively.
BTW - the comments in my first post should have been expressed as applying "the other way around".0 -
Paul said: On the issue of births, I don't remember the situation changing over the years - i.e. if they related to E&W birth registrations, they have always needed to be inputted manually.0
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Paul said: However.... when the birth date is provided in the death record, this can be carried across to the Date of Birth field in the source attachment process - as long as the field has not been filled-in at an earlier date, of course!0
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Adrian Bruce said: Actually Paul, it varies within the England & Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 collection.
It's the same collection but the earlier one (1999) is a death registration, the later (2005) is a death. There may be an opportunity for things to have gone inconsistent because the GRO changed format at least once, possibly twice, in that rough era, so there might have been two (or more) indexing projects to cope with the two (or more) formats.
One can be pedantic and say that the birth registration and birth can be several weeks apart, ditto the death registration and death. But then (he said, tongue in cheek) we could say that about marriage banns and a marriage, couldn't we? But we don't separate those out.... Do we?0 -
Stewart Millar said: Paul,
You are quite right - this is more confusing than it needs to be . . .
The following is how I see death and birth "registrations" being applied (I have not included the 1998-2015 "Death Records" from the records of undertakers.
I have become so iritated at having to backtrack over the past year to upate the Birth Tags covinces me that that the myriad of past attachments of birth registrations correctly marked "Birth" tag - did work differently than it does at the moment.
Why cannot Birth registrations update the Birth Tag . . . and Death registrations update the Death tag . . . with the added (enhanced) birth data in some death registrations updating the birth date.
The current configuration of updating the Birth/Death tags does not make any sense.0 -
Stewart Millar said: Odd and more odd . . .
The example in Adrian's post above . . . shows on my pc as:
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Stewart Millar said: I would say that the above table indicates why - no attached death registrations between 1978 and 2004 are switching on the "Death" tag . . . . and why no attached birth registrations at all are switching on the "Birth" tag.
I have no idea when this started.0 -
Adrian Bruce said: That one's got "principal" in so is probably a different display. But why create the confusion?0
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