Be able to attach image more than once to a person for sources

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: At the URL: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/619... which is

""Netherlands, Overijssel Province, Church Records, 1542-1893," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3... : 30 January 2015), Nederlands Hervormd > Holten > Dopen 1706-1811 Trouwen 1706-1811 Overlijden 1799-1811 > image 298 of 362; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague)."

there are two birth/baptism records for two different kids on the same image. I am not able to attach the second record to the same parents because the other record is already attached. This should be changed so that I can attach the same image to the same set of parents twice or more times.

The two children with their records of their birth and baptism PIDs are L2CP-WCZ and K8BB-GR9. I can't remember if I already mentioned this before, but either way, I am saying it again.

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Lundgren said: I have the same problem with Swedish Church records when a person moves out and then back in again, they are listed twice in the record.

From your screenshot, I cannot tell if you are using the source linker to attach the record. If you are, then you can attach a person who appears twice in the record.

You attach the record to the person once for the first occurrence and then re-align the second occurrence in the record to the same tree person again and attach it.

If you are trying to tag someone in an image, I can't speak to that.

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Brett said: Jordi

Unless I am missing something ...

As you are taking about attaching an (ie. the SAME) "Image" associated with a "Source" to MORE than one individual/person; and, as can be seen from the "Image" in your post, that you already know how; but, the OTHER individual/person does not appear on the "List" ...

THEN ...

Go back to the "Image"; and, add the "Image" to your "Source Box" ...





THEN ...

You should then be able to attached the "Image" to whoever you want from your "Source Box" ...

I hope this helps.

Brett

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Juli said: Lundgren, he's using the "Attach to Family Tree" button on an unindexed image.

I've run into the same problem, and posted to GetSat about it, but I can't find the thread.

One solution is to attach the second citation as an "agnostic" source (globe icon instead of tree).

Another solution is to create a combined source citation. In Jordi's example, this would mean mentioning both children in the title, and transcribing both entries in the Notes/Description section.

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: Yeah those are solutions to my problems, but I shouldn't have to do that is what I am saying. It also defeats the purpose of having the "Attach to Family Tree" button in my opinion because I want to attach all family search unindexed records in the same way, and this way is the fastest.

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: No, I am using the "Attach to Family Tree" button that is on each unindexed image. There are 22 birth/baptism records on the image. 2 of them are children with the same parents. I attached one birth/baptism record to Hendrika and her parents, and the other birth/baptism record to Jan. I was not able to attach that one to his parents because they were associated with Hendrika's birth/baptism record. That is why, on my image provided, it says "This image is already attached" to 3 people (Hendrika, Jan, and Aaltjen). That is good and all for images with ONE record, but that is not the case of this image. I suggest to have this continue saying this, but STILL allow the user to select those people already in the image to attach the record to. (More control to us please) Therefore, the parents would have 2 sources pointing to the SAME image, but to different parts of the image (different records).

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: This worked, thanks! I have never really used that method before. However, it adds in a lot of extra steps that should not be needed imo.

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: Using Brett's method, I was able to attach same image twice to same people. But the method took 3 times longer than using the "Attach to Family Search" button which was incapable of doing this. I will be using this longer method for situations like this until (and if) the engineers update this function.

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Brett said: Jordi ( & Juli )

What am I missing ...

In relation to the "Unindexed" record ...

When you are in the process of attaching THE "Image" (of the "Unindexed" record) for the FIRST time to one individual/person (eg. FIRST Child), you CAN add whatever details/information you want; and, add the "Image" to ALL those concerned [ie. Parents and another (SECOND) Child, if such needs to be the case].

As such, what is the problem/issue?
The "Image" (ie. Page), with FIRST Child and SECOND Child, on the same page, is attached to, both, Children and their Parents, in one go; so, what is the problem/issue?

Just confused.

Brett

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: I don't want to attach one source note for 2 events that happened 2 years apart. I want to have 2 separate source events because the events are separate from each other. I guess some people would be fine with doing that, but I am not. Basically it is compartmentalizing.

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Brett said: Jordi

Now I understand; and, I totally agree with you, I too would want "Separate" details for each Child's "Source"; especially, as the "Events" are Years apart.

The difference between us is that I do not minding doing it twice (or as many times as is needed/required) for each Child, I do not mind the extra steps and time involved.

One step at a time; so as, to progress gradually and carefully from one stage to the next.

One Child at a time, each one individually.

A lot less complicated; and, a lot less prone to error.

Genealogy / Family History is NOT a RACE.

I prefer slow and steady.

Personally, I think what you are asking for is too much; and, would complicate the matter, not to mention how complicated the "Coding" (ie. "Programming") would be (it never is as EASY as mots of us think) - it would most likely not work properly and probably mess things up.

But ...
That said ...

That is just me.

Brett

ps: I hope they can do what you desire.

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Juli said: Brett, Jordi and I would also be happy to attach each separate citation separately. The problem is that the shortest/best way to create the citations -- the Attach to Family Tree button -- only works once. It will not allow you to attach the same image to the parents again, regardless of how many of their children are on the page.

Another workaround: use the button, and make sure the Add to Source Box checkbox is selected. Then go to each parent's Sources and add the source from the source box.

None of these solutions are really satisfactory in terms of workflow and number of steps, but that is the nature of workarounds.

(FS FT is a collection of workarounds around workarounds, especially with all of the modal window nonsense that they keep adding.)

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: Attaching to Family Tree on the newer image viewer (this link https://www.familysearch.org/records/... instead of https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/619...) allows to add the same person several times on the same image (which links to the old image viewer). So that is nice.