WWI Draft Registrations

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Andrew Palamidy said: The other day, I noticed that an in-law ancestor, who was married to my great grandfather's younger sister, signed up for WWI the same day and possibly same time as my great grandfather. I tried to get an internet copy of two cards; however, both draft cards only appeared on one page and a problem did occur. The draft registration card appearing on the left was only showing its right side and the draft registrar's report (card) appearing on the right was only showing its left side. Can you please e-mail me two attachments; one attachment for my in-law's WWI Draft Registration Card and the other attachment for my in-law's WWI Draft Registrar's Report (card)? Then, when I make a copy, I will have two separate pages. Andrew ajp_4577 (at) hotmail (dot) com

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Francie Whitfield said: Aloha Andrew, I saw your request earlier but didn't have time to respond that I would try to help you but I would need either some basic info to search for your relative's records or the links to the records you found and are referencing in your original request.

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Andrew Palamidy said: Aloha Ms. Francie Whitfield,
I was delighted when I received your reply. I would love to discuss matters further and supply you with the needed info..
I looked up, via Family Search: United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 for George Holden Fogg (b. 7 May 1884). Citizenship: England, Event Place: Paterson, Passaic County, New Jersey. His Spouse: Ethel Maclean.
If you may need anymore info, please do let me know, okay.
Take care and stay safe.
Aloha
Andrew

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Tom Huber said: I'm not quite sure what you are reporting or where you are viewing the image of the cards.

The front and back of the cards were filmed by the NARA for all but the Maine records (which were lost). They appear like this:

It sounds like you were not seeing both the front and the back of the card, but only one side at a time.

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Andrew Palamidy said: Hi Tom Huber,

From your above copy, I did a double copy and finally was ablr to get a single copy. I do appreciate your assistance.

Sincerely,

Andrew Jacob Palamidy Sr.

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Jeff Wiseman said: Tom. not quite sure here but it sort of sounds sort of like one of the cards was in 2 separate images, the first had the back page of the card missing, and the second had the front page of the card missing. Andrew wanted both front and back on the same image for archiving purposes or some such.

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Adrian Bruce said: I have an idea that draft cards normally appears with the front and back either in the right order or in the same frame. Normally but not always.

I find it a good idea with any document to go both left and right to try and work out which way the front and back go.

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Jeff Wiseman said: I have seen collections where the front and back are ALL in separate images. Also, after attaching, I always have to go and fix the dates and places. In Tom's example, FS should have automatically created an Other Information item with the data as 1917-1918, but it can be plainly seen on the card that the registration took place on 12 September 1918. That is really useful sometimes. Also, you can create residence information from these as well as the place of registration was not necessarily where the lived at that time.

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Andrew Palamidy said: Hi Jeff,

I did appreciate receiving your e-mail.

You are correct about this WWI Record being helpful because it does show, during that time, George H. Fogg was married to Ethel MacLean who was (John William MacLean's) my great grandfather's younger sister. I also have a copy of George's 1893 Immigration Record, when he was 9 years old, and a copy of his 1900 (Hawthorne Borough, Passaic County, New Jersey) United States Census and a copy of his 1917 United States Declaration of Intention.

My goal, is to find out more about Ethel, who is my great Aunt, as well as her husband. Her family's 1900 U.S. Census states she was 11 years old, working as a silk mill twister in Paterson, New Jersey. That was the same type of work that her husband did, yet, he had many more years of experience than Ethel did. Maybe as a foreman. Before they got married, I do believe there was (possibly) sexual harassment going on which eventually became compassionate, due to Ethel having a baby afterwards.

I am putting pieces of this puzzle together by information I am finding out, pertaining to her older brother's, my great grandfather's, employment. He was a silk mill worker, at that same time, in Paterson, also. I do believe he was banned from working at anymore silk mills, during Paterson's 1913 Silk Mills Strike, due to being among or seeing a bad sexual harassment at the silk mill where he/they were working at.

If this sounds interesting and you may be able to help with information, please do send me an e-mail.

Andrew

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Jeff Wiseman said: Yea, when folks are just getting to know the system here with the source linker, so many just do not realize all of the information that has NOT been indexed. I find that a simple thing like a series of residences identified with reliable sources over the years can make things easier to figure our in other areas as well.