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Person was not transcribed on 1925 New York state census

WilmethAnnCarol2
WilmethAnnCarol2 ✭✭
May 15 in Search

On the 1925 New York state census for Hartland, Niagara County, New York, one family member was not transcribed at all:

Frank B. Hawley, head, 67, farmer, born in Canada.

(Wife is Alice M. Hawley, 66 — she and the remainder of the family were transcribed, but Frank was left off.)

I tried searching for Frank by even leaving off his first name, but he still didn't show up.

BTW, this state census lists relationships, so why didn't they get transcribed as a family. The only way I could add these people to FamilySearch was to find the original image on Ancestry, and then add each of the 6 family members one at a time, except that the head (Frank) was missed. Why doesn't FamilySearch transcribe these people as a family. If I didn't have access to Ancestry, there would be no way to know who the family members were.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2704/images/32849_b094302-00445?ssrc=&queryId=13df1e3d-16da-4a7d-a2cd-b1c62db2a64e&usePUB=true&pId=24502806

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 15

    @WilmethAnnCarol2

    The index of the 1925 New York Census was provided by Ancestry. It was not created as a separate project by FamilySearch. We sometimes see errors with imported indexes.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/collection/1937489

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  • Robert Seal_1
    Robert Seal_1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 15

    Hello @WilmethAnnCarol2,

    My experience with Ancestry indexing over many years is that it is not very good, which is probably why Frank B. Hawley got missed when this census record was indexed by Ancestry.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 15

    @Robert Seal_1 I tend to agree about the quality of indexing; however, in this case, Frank is indexed in the version showing on Ancestry. Likely, some field was mismapped on the import.

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  • Robert Seal_1
    Robert Seal_1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 15 edited May 15

    Thank you, @Áine.ní.Donnghaile, for the explanation that the entry likely got "lost" in the import.

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  • WilmethAnnCarol2
    WilmethAnnCarol2 ✭✭
    May 23

    I'll be more specific. Frank was indexed in Ancestry's version. Frank does not appear in Family Search's version.

    Frank needs to be added by Family Search since he was somehow missed by Family Search. (He shows up in Ancestry's version.)

    How can we — or Family Search — add Frank so that he is part of the data base?

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 23

    @WilmethAnnCarol2
    We users cannot edit or add to an index when the images are not present.
    I have occasionally seen a mod or staff member make an edit to a collection.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 23 edited May 23

    @WilmethAnnCarol2

    Isn't this him? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS7D-K6N?lang=en

    Here's the metadata:

    text

    label

    67

    PR_AGE

    67

    PR_AGE_ORIG

    1858

    PR_BIR_DATE

    +1858

    PR_BIR_DATE

    1858

    PR_BIR_DATE_ORIG

    1858

    PR_BIR_YEAR_ORIG

    Frank B Hawley

    PR_NAME

    Frank B

    PR_NAME_GN

    Frank B

    PR_NAME_GN_ORIG

    Frank B Hawley

    PR_NAME_ORIG

    Hawley

    PR_NAME_SURN

    Hawley

    PR_NAME_SURN_ORIG

    Canada

    PR_NATIONALITY_ORIG

    White

    PR_RACE_OR_COLOR_ORIG

    Head

    PR_RELATIONSHIP_TO_HEAD_ORIG

    Male

    PR_SEX_CODE

    text

    label

    Hartland, A.D. 01, E.D. 01, Niagara, New York, United States

    EVENT_PLACE

    Hartland, Niagara, New York, United States

    EVENT_PLACE

    Hartland, A.D. 01, E.D. 01, Niagara, New York, United States

    EVENT_PLACE_ORIG

    The _ORIG values will be the Ancestry version, which appears to match the mapped FS one.

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