Question about Edmond LeJeune
Hello. On my family tree, a person "Edmond LeJeune" (G2PM-6ZQ) who is the father of Ada M. LeJeune seems to have nothing about a spouse. I was wondering if anyone had any way of querying for some marriage certificate, and maybe also to try and find a birth certificate for his parents.
This is boggling my mind and I just need some help. Thanks.
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Hi @beavx.
Both of Ada's parents are on her death record. Her mother was listed there as Florence Page. If this is her marriage record, it may have been Florentine Lepage.
I found what might be another profile for Edmond, which will need research in case there are mixed up records. Ada's Find a Grave may also give you some clues.
Hopefully that gives you a good start. As the family was from Louisiana, you may want to join the Southern States Research group here, which can provide the best assistance for research in that area.
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Edmond Lejeune married Florence in 1880. It's certainly possible that Edmond only married Florence many years after Ada's birth, or that the marriage was a revalidation, but I would want more info.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJH-BVXV?lang=en2 -
Thank you, for some reason I am unable to find the death certificate.
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@beavx
The death certificate is restricted to view at a FamilySearch Center. Only the index/extract is online.
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Sorry for the confusion. It appears that these are either duplicates with wrong information or two different persons. The person I'm looking is Ada M LeJeune (L174-PBY).
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@beavx
The names on that death record match the profile and the entry on Findagrave.
I would advise caution on accepting that marriage record and the potential mother for Ada.
As I mentioned earlier, the marriage dates from 1880, some years after Ada's birth.Digging deeper, a copy of the marriage record is found in the Civil War widow's pension record for Florentine, widow of Edmond LeJeune. Edmond is said to have served in the Civil War and died in 1901. According to Edmond LeJeune's profile, LHVG-KRR, he was born in 1856, making him only 5 at the beginning of the Civil War.
Those dates make me very suspicious of a possible same-name conflation.3 -
Hi again, @beavx.
That should be the right death certificate, showing her married name. Ada first married Oscar Williamson and then H C Ellis sometime before 1920. It appears they were both previously married.
Ada's obituary on her Find a Grave includes her five sons with the Wiliamson surname and one with Ellis: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106304441/mary-ada-ellis#view-photo=76223026
You may want to message the contributors on the FamilySearch page of that son with the Ellis surname, particularly, the contributor who said they talked to close relatives about the family. Here is that page: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L1WH-3M8
Hopefully, they will have more information they can share with you. To send them a message, click their contact ID's and then the blue chat button.
Also, as @Áine.ní.Donnghaile pointed out, there might be some issues with people's records mixed together. Someone may have erroneously attached the marriage to the wrong Edmond Lejenue. Both of Ada's parents seem to have been born in the mid 1840s, looking at censuses. This profile looks better for Edmond's birth year and includes the 1900 census, where he and Florence are living with Oscar and Ada's family: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/sources/LZ1Q-TY7
In regards to Florence, in 1910 she was living with the same Mary mentioned in Ada's obituary: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPYR-X58?lang=en
In 1920, Florence is living with Ada: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVQK-CXB?lang=en
Florence's Find a Grave is here, in the same cemetery as Ada: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130203118/florence-lejeune
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I'll retrieve the DC when I next visit my FSC.
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Well, I guess my question would be then how can I verify and how's a good way of starting this? I'm very new to genealogy, so I'm not used to so much indexing and research. Are there alternative sources you access, or what exactly to access this material?
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@beavx
Excellent questions.
FamilySearch offers a wide variety of online classes and webinars designed to help new researchers. Many are recorded and can be watched at your convenience. New ones are added regularly.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/learning-center
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Classes_in_the_Learning_CenterThere are many other free online classes to help a new researcher. Also, check with your local library or genealogical or historical society.
My personal advice - take it slow and easy. Make sure that the dots connect. Think of it as a puzzle, and make sure the pieces fit.4 -
Thank you so much.
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You’re running into a very common genealogy roadblock — missing spouse/parent records for someone who should have them. The good news is: this is usually solvable with the right approach.
Here’s what’s likely going on
- “Edmond LeJeune” may be:
- Recorded under a different spelling (LeJeune, Le Jeune, Lejeune, LeJune, etc.)
- Missing a linked spouse, even if records exist
- Living in a time/place where records weren’t digitized or indexed
What you should try (step-by-step)
1. Search with name variations
Don’t stick to just “Edmond LeJeune.” Try:- Edmond / Edward / Ed / E.
- LeJeune / Le Jeune / Lejeune / LeJune
👉 This alone solves a lot of “missing person” cases.
2. Use “Find” instead of just tree view
On FamilySearch:- Go to Search → Records
- Enter:
- First name: Edmond (or variant)
- Last name: LeJeune (try variations)
- Add location if you know it
- Add estimated birth year
3. Search via the daughter (Ada M. LeJeune)
This is a powerful trick:- Look for Ada’s records (birth, marriage, death)
- These often list:
- Father’s full name
- Mother’s name (this is what you’re missing)
👉 Death certificates are especially useful here.
4. Check census records
Census entries can reveal:- Wife’s name
- Children
- Birthplaces of parents
Search for:
- Edmond + Ada
- Or just Ada in early census records
5. Look for unlinked records
Sometimes records exist but aren’t attached to the tree:- Scroll down in FamilySearch profile
- Check:
- “Search Records”
- “Possible Duplicates”
- “Research Help”
6. Try external databases
FamilySearch doesn’t have everything. Also check:- Ancestry
- MyHeritage
- FindAGrave (for family links)
About his parents (harder part)
Finding Edmond’s parents depends on:
- Location (very important)
- Time period
Best sources:
- Birth/baptism records
- Marriage record (often lists parents)
- Death certificate
Reality check (important)
If:
- He lived in a rural area
- Or before consistent civil registration
👉 Records may not exist, not just “not found”
Quick strategy that works best
Start with:
👉 Ada’s death or marriage record
➡️ Find mother’s name
➡️ Then trace backward to Edmond’s marriageIf you want, share:
- Location (state/country)
- Approx years
I can help you narrow it down much faster 👍
-4 - “Edmond LeJeune” may be:
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If you're active, I may have found something. I looked up records, I found an individual Aglae Charlotte Fontenot (LTKD-NLK) who traces back to be married to Sosthenes Michel LeJeune. However, I can't find a birth record for Ada M. LeJeune under that. I may be able to go to a FamilySearch Center to try and ask too. If digital ones are willing to assist, I can do that too.
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Ada M. LeJeune's second husband was unfortunately the merger of 2 different sets of 1910 census, so separated to 2 different people
Henry Clarence H C Ellis Sr L5TK-NFJ with wife Rebeca Meadows GCT3-CDK and children Zelma, Henry, Lilian, Earnest and second wife Ada Mary LeJeune L174-PBY with child Joseph
Seperated from Henry Ellis GV5J-69D with wife Rebecca Stevenson PZ8R-G2J and children Louis, Edward, Lucille, Gertrude
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So Edmond is the son of H C Ellis?
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Thank you. I hope to be a lot more knowledgeable with this soon.
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Something else that needs review:
There are two Findagrave memorials for Florence LeJeune.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130203118/florence-lejeune is listed in the same cemetery with daughter, Mary Ada Lejeune Ellis.
With the same dates and a different view of the same headstone is https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126422779/florence-lejeune in a different cemetery.
Stating the obvious, she can't be buried in two places with the same marker.
I pulled the 1929 death certificate matching those dates and sent that to @beavx. That DC also has some info that will need to be reviewed to ensure that the record belongs to the person being researched. The certificate is for a female, listed as "Mrs. Emanuel LeJeune." https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F33Q-BMP?lang=en and the death occurred in a different parish.
Also, in the FS Tree, that DC is attached to different woman.2 -
After looking at it closer, I zoomed in on both gravestones, they're the same. I think someone may have put the wrong information. If you closely inspect the gravestone, you see the design being identical and then the picture Bobby uploaded that says she's in Pointe Coupee Parish, you can even see the surrounding portions of concrete as shown completely in the Krotz Springs.
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It's curious where Florence's death certificate is. 🤔
@beavx, the cemetery she should be buried in is the First Baptist Church of Krotz Springs Cemetery. I'd consider contacting that church to see if they have any burial records or could point you to who does. Hopefully, that can give us some clarification.
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@beavx As I said yesterday
Stating the obvious, she can't be buried in two places with the same marker.
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Of course. I'll get ahold of some people shortly, who are related.
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