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During the cleaning of the duplicate profiles I came across the profile of Savinie Laureyns (P92S-F4H). This person is created by the Treebuilding Project and has no sex. This person is allegedly deceased in Peru but the source can't be opened. Could someone help me?
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Checking West Flanders Births and Baptisms on Ancestry, for children born to those parents, around that time:
Charles 6 July 1849
Victor 27 June 1850
Alphonse Emile 30 May 1852
Clementine Louise Anne Françoise 20 September 18540 -
@Loïc Baert The gender was probably left blank because it is confusing. The record clearly shows as male in the side bar:
However, this is the text:
"Jacinto Molino manifesto que ha fallecido el dia de hoy a las cinco y media de la manana en la calle de union numero mil ciento diez la muser Savinie Laureyns de sesenta y siete anos edad religiosa natural de Bruges, Belgisa, hija de don Carlos Laureyns y de Ana Van de Berghe."
I don't speak Spanish. I'll let you decide.
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M means "mujer" (woman) 😅
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Religiosa Is nun or religious sister, so female
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Thank you for all your kind answers! @SerraNola : How were you able to see the source?
Could it be that she changed her name when she became a sister?
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Yes, religious sisters often changed given names when taking vows.
I found a tree - with no visible sources - listing her name as
Victoria Marie Anne LaureynsParents:
Charles Henri Né Van Halme Laureyns, master-painter 1824-1886
Anne Francisca Jeanne van den BERGHE, particular 1826-1862
Children:
Male Charles Henri Laureyns 1849-1855
Female Victoria Marie Anne Laureyns 1850-
Male Alphonse Emile Laureyns 1852-/1919
Female Clementine Louise Anne Françoise Laureyns 1854-
Male Edmond Jean Charles François Laureyns 1857-1860
Female Anna Pauline Françoise Charlotte Laureyns 1859-1860
Female Leonie Colette Albertine Laureyns 1860-1 -
@Áine.ní.Donnghaile Thank you for the information. Can I use this community post as a note on the profile? How do we know that Victoria Marie Anne Laureyns became a religious sister and not Clementine Louise Anne Françoise Laureyns?
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To know with certainty which of the daughters became a religious sister would require additional research - a marriage or death record for Clementine, for example.
But, in my experience, it's unlikely for a woman to be listed as 4 years older than her actual age at death. 4 or even 15 years younger, all the time, but rarely older.
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@Loïc Baert
Clementine died, age 49, in 1903. She was also a religious sister. I found her death record on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/57844536?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a226f663037382f4e573563304a7774486b5a3658334b7252505a3667694538772f434861656a6b7a4f556c6b3d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227dName
Clémentine Louise Anne Françoise Laureyns
Gender
femme (Female)
Death Age
49
Record Type
Décès (Death)
Birth Date
abt 1854
Birth Place
Bruyes (Belgique)
Death Date
7 nov. 1903 (7 Nov 1903)
Death Place
Huitième Arrondissement De Paris, Paris, France
Father
Mother
Entry Number
1971
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And "Savinie" was age 67:
Name
Savinie Laureyns
Death Age
67
Record Type
defunción (Death)
Birth Date
1850
Death Date
13 jul. 1917 (13 Jul 1917)
Death Place
Lima, Lima, Lima, Perú
Father
Mother
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@Loïc Baert
I located the birth record for Victoire Marie Anne, daughter of Carolus Laureyns and Anna Van den Berghe.
Bottom left: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGVY-9GF1 -
Thank you @Áine.ní.Donnghaile for the research.
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