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glyman3967850
glyman3967850 ✭
February 5 in Family Tree

Is it correct to list slaves with their owners? See William T Zachary, LHJ2-YCD.

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  • Miss Jessie
    Miss Jessie ✭✭✭✭
    February 5 edited February 6

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/record-enslaved-persons-in-family-tree

    How you record enslaved persons in Family Tree depends on what you know about them from your family's history and from historical records, such as estate registers.

    You know the family relationships between the enslaved persons

    If you know the enslaved persons are related, simply add them to the Tree the same as you would for any other family member.

    From there, you can then use the Other Relationships feature to add the name of the slaveholder to each enslaved person. Doing so can make it easier to record other potentially important details. (See Source Documents section below)

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  • glyman3967850
    glyman3967850 ✭
    February 5

    FamilySearch added the slaves to William Zachry in 2012. There are no sources attached.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 5

    @glyman3967850
    Entries dated from April 2012 with "FamilySearch" as the contributor indicate that the profile was migrated from the previous system. The names of contributors could not be preserved, and it was not possible to attach sources in the older versions of FamilySearch.
    In other words, someone, not FamilySearch staff, added those relationships based on evidence they had.

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  • Harvest8
    Harvest8 ✭✭✭
    February 6

    @glyman3967850

    Yes, it is appropriate to add enslaved individuals when there are reliable sources to support the same (see @berthearle reply with active help and tips "how to" link).

    BUT,

    in regards to William T Zachary, LHJ2-YCD, the linking appears incorrect for the NON SOURCED enslaved individuals. If enslaved individuals are added correctly, they should show under "The Other Relationships" section in the Details tab vs. appearing in the children list.

    RANDOM Thoughts:

    A quick glance at LHJ2-YCD suggests to me possible conflation with other families or research, no reliable sources to link the enslaved, middle initial "T" should be suspect until a viable source or reason added, enslaved names have been identified with a "biological relationship", several of the enslaved show "of" a different geographic location again suggesting approach the profile with care as a merge and or conflation with others with a similar name has taken place.

    I'm only a user dropping in periodically on this help forum, but have several Ancestral directs with slave ownership history being worked in the FamilySearch tree, and in those cases the relationship of "enslavement" (drop down pick list) was found and used by using "The Other Relationships". Slave ownership was supported in Wills and or inheritance documents including Deed depositories found using the wonderful FamilySearch Full Text Search tool:

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text

    Full text search takes a bit to review the hits of unindexed content, but maybe very helpful for helping users like yourself decide how to handle unsourced/unconfirmed relationships and/our conflated profiles needing an adept source focused hand.

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  • Mark McKenzie_1
    Mark McKenzie_1 ✭✭✭
    February 7

    To expand on this topic, I occasionally see a reference to an enslaved person in a will or probate record. But as is typically the case only by name and gender. Not sure it is helpful for me to create relationship and an associated PID for the identified person on such 'vague' info [e.g. Given Name, Race, Residence]. Instead I've used a Custom Fact to reflect what is found in the record. Any other ideas/approach?

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 7

    One of my 3rd great-grandfathers has DNA matched descendants from slaves. Those matches have attached their branches to the profile.

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  • Harvest8
    Harvest8 ✭✭✭
    February 7

    @Mark McKenzie _1 "Not sure it helpful for me to create relationship and associated PID"

    Would tend to agree with this approach, sometimes less is more, specifically by NOT creating profiles. I lean toward a sourced breadcrumb note vs. a custom field. Both (custom field OR note) communicate to the next generation helpful sourced relationship info. eg."In John Smith will dated, proven date in location..it is noted enslaved individuals Mary, Thomas and minor girl named ...." vs. creating profiles (legacy or otherwise) that can end up in conflated merged mess such as what I saw with LHJ2-YCD.

    @glyman3967850, I left you a private chat note with an example of one of my direct slave owner ancestor's profile where others have added enslaved profiles and how those appear using the "enslaved" drop down in "other relationship"…(I'm on a PC, the enslaved profiles are at the bottom , under "Family Members".) Hope this helps/makes sense, if you continue to work the profile.

    @ Áine.ní.Donnghaile…thanks for your continued help to others…enjoy dropping in periodically to this community and each time walk away learning a bit more than i did before .. I've seen your user name over the years…nice job "Paying forward"….

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  • glyman3967850
    glyman3967850 ✭
    February 9

    Many thanks to each of you for responding to my question. I learned a lot.

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