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Jenny.B
Jenny.B ✭✭
February 4 edited February 4 in Family Tree

Is anyone else having problems Deleting or Removing either Parent-Child or Couple relationships?
We have been trying to Delete or Remove both Parent-Child or Couple relationships, that are Incorrect; but, after adding a Reason and selecting Delete or Remove, the Relationships are Not Deleting or Removing, even after Refreshing.
This has been happening over a number of days, of late.
On occasions, able to Delete a Child, from one Parent; but, not the other.
Have tried a number of different Parent-Child and Couple relationship, that are not related, through various Users.
Have help from experienced Users, no one understans why.
Operating System is Windows10, up-to-date as can be.
Various Browsers (eg. Chrome, FireFox, Brave), all up-to-date.
Clearing Cache and Cookies and Browsing History, makes no difference.
PS: Forgot to add, that the Changes show up in various Change Logs; but, Changes Do Not appear.

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  • ShelleWells
    ShelleWells mod
    February 4

    @Jenny.B can you provide a PID and some context for the removal, so we can take a look?

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 4 edited February 4

    If your reason statement is too long, it can cause the detach process to fail.
    See this recent thread:

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/618012#Comment_618012
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  • Jenny.B
    Jenny.B ✭✭
    February 4

    @ShelleWells
    A number of users and a number of PIDs.
    @Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Thanks.
    But, Reasons are not too long.
    The full Reasons appears in the various ChangeLogs.

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  • ShelleWells
    ShelleWells mod
    February 5

    @Jenny.B Sorry, I'm not going to be able to help if I can't look at PIDs. If this is a bug, we'll need to give details to the engineers.

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  • Jenny.B
    Jenny.B ✭✭
    February 5

    @ShelleWells
    Will message you privately, after further testing,

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  • Jenny.B
    Jenny.B ✭✭
    February 5 edited February 5

    @ShelleWells
    No need to private message you.
    After testing, here is information, for the Programmers after testing.

    BUG

    Scenario 1 - "Parent-Child" Relationship

    First Reason attempt that all appeared in ChangeLog; but, Did Not Delete the Relationship.

    .
    .¶
    DELETE "Parent-Child" Relationship.¶
    INCORRECT "Parent-Child" Relationship.¶
    This Child indicated as Born in Lithuania.¶
    Whereas; ALL Other Children, for this Couple, Born in Centerville, Davis, Utah, United States of America.¶
    This Child DOES NOT relate to this Couple.¶
    Ends.¶
    .¶
    .

    Second Reason attempt that again all appeared in ChangeLog; but, again Did Not Delete the Relationship.
    [ Simply removed the "¶" mark, thought Special Characters may have been the problem ]

    .
    DELETE "Parent-Child" Relationship.
    INCORRECT "Parent-Child" Relationship.
    This Child indicated as Born in Lithuania.
    Whereas; ALL Other Children, for this Couple, Born in Centerville, Davis, Utah, United States of America.
    This Child DOES NOT relate to this Couple.
    Ends.
    .

    Third and final Reason attempt that again all appeared in ChangeLog; but, Did finally Delete the Relationship.
    [ Simply removed the ALL the Lines ( and without the "¶" mark) and making it one single Line ]

    DELETE "Parent-Child" Relationship. INCORRECT "Parent-Child" Relationship. This Child indicated as Born in Lithuania. Whereas; ALL Other Children, for this Couple, Born in Centerville, Davis, Utah, United States of America. This Child DOES NOT relate to this Couple. Ends.

    Scenario 2 - "Couple Relationship"

    First Reason attempt that all appeared in ChangeLog; but, Did Not Delete the Relationship.

    .
    .¶
    INCORRECT "Couple Relationship".¶
    INCORRECT "Marriage Event".¶
    Therefore, "Delete", this INCORRECT "Marriage Event".¶
    Ends.¶
    .¶
    .

    Second Reason attempt that again all appeared in ChangeLog; but, again Did Not Delete the Relationship.
    [ Simply removed x4 Lines, left the Special Characters in place ]

    INCORRECT "Couple Relationship".¶
    INCORRECT "Marriage Event".¶
    Therefore, "Delete", this INCORRECT "Marriage Event".¶
    Ends.¶

    Third and final Reason attempt that again all appeared in ChangeLog; but, Did finally Delete the Relationship.
    [ Simply removed the ALL the Lines and making it one single Line ]

    INCORRECT "Couple Relationship".¶ INCORRECT "Spouse".¶ Therefore, "Remove", this INCORRECT "Spouse".¶ Ends.¶

    For the Programmers
    So, it looks like its the Number of Lines; and, Not the number of Words or Characters, is the problem, making the Detection/Removal Not work.

    @Áine.ní.Donnghaile FYI

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  • ShelleWells
    ShelleWells mod
    February 5

    @Jenny.B Thank you for putting that together. They need to see it in context with the PIDs and change logs involved, so it can be recreated.

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  • Jenny.B
    Jenny.B ✭✭
    February 5

    @ShelleWells
    Have just checked, we now finally have access, to the Beta environment, again.
    Will show the issue there; and, provide the necessary PID, in the Beta environment.
    Hopefully it should generally work the same, within reason.

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  • Jenny.B
    Jenny.B ✭✭
    February 5

    @ShelleWells
    BUG
    For the Programmers.
    BETA FamilySearch site.
    PIDs
    Father/Husband = BM3C-DHM
    Mother/Wife = BM3C-4RX
    Male Child = BM3C-7V6
    Female Child = BM3C-79D
    SAME things happened, as per the Scenarios above; EXCEPT, that the First and Second attempts, Did Not appears in ChangeLog, as per Main site.
    So basically BOTH sites are almost identical.

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