Looking for records from Taiaçu (Tayassú), São Paulo, Brasil

Serge1748

Dear members, I am looking for baptism or marriage records of relatives that immigrated to Brazil from Lebanon in the early 1900s, more specifically to Tayassú.

The information I have is an address in Tayassú (pre-1953) and a list of names from 1982 that includes the person that immigrated (my grandfather's cousin), his children and his grandchildren (those were born between 1950-1970). I am trying to research indexed data sets using their names and the name of their town.

So far, I have been able to find 4 matches where the individual in question is someone's godfather (Brasil, São Paulo, Registros da Igreja Católica, 1640-2013) and 2 matches where he's the father of the child being baptized, one of whom is not on my list of names! These records all date back to the 1920s. In these records, my grandfather's cousin is listed alongside the same woman who I am assuming is his wife.

I am wondering if you have any suggestions on how to refine my search and find his remaining children through baptism or marriage records, he had 11 children. This will help me in confirming his identity. Additionally, I have not been able to locate any of his grandchildren (all 30 of them!).

I tired reaching out to the municipality of Tayassú, but their email and web contact form generate server errors when used, they must have badly configured them :(

Do you have any suggestions on how to pursue this further? Thank you.

jamiehadlock

Might I suggest you put the information you have into familysearch.org. Then the search engine may search through the records available for you and find more records. Or you can go to the Wiki or catalogue on familysearch for the area you are interested and search the records there.

Serge1748

Hi there, this is what I have been doing. I was wondering if people here could suggest alternatives.

jamiehadlock

I am not sure if I understand what you are saying but I have heard if you put in the child names spot a blank given name and his or her surname, then list the parents name, then give a birth year range that covers all of the years a child might be born with the expected location listed that sometimes all of the children could possibly show up. If you give me the names or the the PID numbers of the individual(s) you are refering to maybe I could help

jamiehadlock

It could be that records of people born between 1950 and 1970 are protected for privacy reasons.

If you click on how to use this collection you will find out that this record contains various but not all records of Brasil and it also has some statements in there about restrictions that they have. If you click on browse all images you will find that the location you mention is not in there.

I noticed that you said you found some records. Perhaps you could browse through records in the areas that you found them to see what you might be able to find.

jamiehadlock

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Brazil,_S%C3%A3o_Paulo,Catholic_Church_Records-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records

The site above tells you what is in this collection. It mentions it has various records but not all.

My quick check of the records for Taiaçu is that if you go to last entries they only go up to early 1900 in records. I don't think what you are attemping to find is not currently in this record.

Serge1748

Hi Jamie, thank you for the details. The location in question does in fact exist in that collection. You can find it here, maybe you missed it. The parish of São José, Taiaçu, has 4 records that span from 1902 to 1924. Theoretically, these should include some of the people I am looking for. Obviously not the generation that was born in the 1950s, but potentially the baptisms of their parents or the marriage of their grandparents.

Here's a baptism record that shows one of them. Nagib Jorge, his wife Maria Umbelina Jorge and their son Joao. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66NP-WM75?lang=en.

That same collection (on other pages) shows this couple as godparents to other Brazilian children (example). Nagib Jorge and his decedents are the people I am looking for. He may or may not be the person I found in these records and that's why I would like to confirm his identity by matching the names of his other children with the ones I have.

If anyone has an idea about how to get in touch with people in Taiacu, I am all ears. Thank you.

jamiehadlock

You are right, the location is there just spelled a different way. I plugged in the mother name and the father name and the surname of child without a given name for the years 1900-1950. These were the only two records that came up for me

	Name	Events	Relationships	Links
More	Nagib Father Brazil, São Paulo, Catholic Church Records, 1640-2013		Spouses Simon AbisabesChildren Innocencio
More	Maria Nazosé Ferreira Campos Nagib Mother Brazil, São Paulo, Catholic Church Records, 1640-2013		Spouses Aquino FerreiraChildren Benedicto Aquino Ferreira

jamiehadlock

You might want to find other communities near by with a map search and check those areas also

jamiehadlock

I would hope that you could keep an eye on this site for records you are interested in.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/collection/2765317

It is now going through the digitizing and indexing process. I believe it has the records you are interested in. Some of the records may be restricted to family history center sites or for privacy reasons when they come on line. You can enter in names now and records for some things are already available. Some one told me to be generous with the indexing process at this point as sometimes Godparents are showing up as parents and such, so you may need to be overly generous in looking at the indexing info before discarding the record. These are civil records for the areas you are looking for.