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Kim-N-Charlene
Kim-N-Charlene ✭
February 15 edited June 3 in Memories

Just so I clearly make sure I'm not vitalizing proper prodigal are we not to add find a grave headstone's!

Thanks Charlene

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  • Re Searching
    Re Searching ✭✭✭✭
    February 16 Answer ✓

    I presume that you mean the actual photograph which might be copyrighted. In many cases I have seen and sometimes I have even produced a transcription of headstone content. This can be more useful because you can add explanatory footnotes.

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  • MandyShaw1
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    February 16 edited February 16 Answer ✓

    @Kim-N-Charlene you'd be better adding the Find a Grave page as a source via the relevant FamilySearch collection and, as @Re Searching says, adding whatever you are able to transcribe (where it doesn't already appear in the source metadata) - I'd suggest putting this information in the source notes.

    Uploading an image from another website as a Memory is always something to be very careful about unless you are the photographer or the image (as opposed to the thing being photographed) is old enough to be out of copyright. FS will remove Memories if it finds copyright issues with them. Linking to the other website as a source instead of duplicating the image as a Memory gets round this problem.

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  • Kim-N-Charlene
    Kim-N-Charlene ✭
    February 16 Answer ✓

    Thank you so much for answering this question.

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  • Kim-N-Charlene
    Kim-N-Charlene ✭
    February 18 Answer ✓

    I just barely did this little one, so you can see what I'm doing. Romolo DiNardo

    PM1S-1RF

    Thanks again for your help.

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 6 edited March 6 Answer ✓

    This is a collection of material I have collected concerning genealogical research and copyright law.

    https://yanceyfamilygenealogy.org/copyright.htm

    One of the items does discuss the very "gray area" of obituaries and copyright.
    (don't think that newspapers really have copyright on most obituaries they publish - - the fact is in most cases they technically dont. )

    also realize that copyright - has little to do with what is ok or not to post about living people.

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  • Kim-N-Charlene
    Kim-N-Charlene ✭
    February 17

    I am adding footnotes along with when I add the headstone on the description. Thanks for the input. What about the other things on find a grave that someone has posted. Like a death certificate or an obituary. These things I find most helpful too. Thanks Again Charlene

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 17 edited February 17

    If you haven't already got a death record and an obit attached as Sources alongside the Find a Grave entry, filling those gaps would be the best start point, I'd think.

    It would help though if you were to post the person's PID here since I am finding it hard to visualise what's happening (not sure what you mean by footnotes in this context).

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  • Kim-N-Charlene
    Kim-N-Charlene ✭
    February 19

    So I got this in my email this morning.

    Data Admin (FamilySearch)

    Feb 19, 2025, 09:47 MST

    We will need a release specifying that the copyright holder grants permission for this document to be posted on our public website. We have no way of telling how many images you may have already posted on our site or another place, so we need a release for this one.

    Thank you for your understanding and your interest in this work.

    Sincerely,

    FamilySearch Data Administration

    SHOULD I NOT BE ADDING THE FIND A GRAVE INFORMATION AND HEADSTONE?

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  • AmberML1
    AmberML1 ✭✭✭
    February 19

    @Kim-N-Charlene

    Sorry, yes, FamilySearch will flag headstone photos…they want to make sure they follow Copyright laws. The response you received is automated, so you can respond and argue your case.

    Note: FamilySearch frequently reviews Copyright Laws and is subject to adhere to such laws. Please understand that FamilySearch Copyright Laws are not in place to annoy or restrict users.

    You can review FamilySearch Copyright Laws in the FamilySearch Terms of Use.

    If you have additional questions/concerns, I would suggest you check out Judy G. Russell’s website: The Legal Genealogist. She talks at length about the ins-and-outs of Genealogy Copyright issues.

    Regardless of Copyright issues, a best practice would be to create your own source, add the pertinent details, and ALSO add a link AND a description as to where this information came from. (We need to remember that Family History is all about research and sharing research. We should provide information about where we found our information.)

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  • Kim-N-Charlene
    Kim-N-Charlene ✭
    February 19

    Thank you for your feedback. I just truly wanted the clarification! Thanks Again Charlene

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 6 edited March 6

    I see reference to
    "FamilySearch Copyright Law"
    copyright law is not made by FamilySearch!

    Copying a photo that someone else made - without their permission
    is (in many instances) in violation of national copyright laws
    those are NOT laws made by FamilySearch - Familysearch didnt establish copyright law - the government did. and they apply anywhere - not just FamilySearch.

    Now it is true that FamilySearch has "terms of use" clauses that surely apply - and may reference the subject of copyright - but the phrase "Familysearch Copyright law" is just plain miswording and confusing.

    The term "FamilySearch Terms of use" is a correct term however.

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