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where was clarence h besaw ( bisson ) from 1919 to 1929

beverlypalmore
beverlypalmore ✭
January 27 edited June 3 in Family Tree

clarencewas born in malone franklin village on april 20 1919 to richard and bertha besaw ( bisson ) on may 9 1919 bertha was admitted to the franklin almshouse in 1920 census clarence is still there but after that i cannot find him i wrote to the franklin historice society and the franklin county clerk and the ny state library but they couldnt find him after 1920 i cannot find a death certificate for him i know his parents went to canada and had another baby but cannot find recors of him please help me find him there has to be a record of him somewhere

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  • GFre
    GFre ✭✭✭
    January 27 edited January 27

    Hi @beverlypalmore. Is this person you're looking for?:

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LYH6-FLP

    You specified that you would like to find records between the adoption and the 1930 Census. There's a note (under the collaborate tab) about what might have happened to Clarence/Harold. I'd suggest contacting the person who wrote the note and ask what information they have.

    This link may also be of help to you:

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/New_York_Adoption_Research

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  • Mark McKenzie_1
    Mark McKenzie_1 ✭✭✭
    January 28

    @beverlypalmore

    I also saw this contribution by another researcher.

    Birth Certificate gives this name, Clarence Harry Besaw. It is believed that Harold Lee Palmore was born Clarence Harry Besaw, son of Richard Besaw (9NP5-9K2) and Bertha Tallman (L6P8-RFZ) and was adopted between 1920 and 1929, (when he appears in a school record under the name Harold Lee Palmore), by Leon Marion Palmore (GG4L-4HZ) and Lillian Patton (GG42-1FC).

    You may want to reach out to them as well as they made some fairly recent [Dec '24] contributions to the profile

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  • beverlypalmore
    beverlypalmore ✭
    January 30 edited January 31

    where do i find records of this baby when in 1921 he is not with his parents? where do i start?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 31 edited January 31

    Beverly, a continent to start with might be nice. The answers to "where are the records?" questions tend to be highly location-specific.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 31 edited January 31

    @beverlypalmore a good starting place would be the FS Research Wiki, available from the FS home page Search menu (for some reason I am finding it impossible to capture a direct Research Wiki URL, sorry).

    You may also benefit from joining the most relevant geographical Community Group.

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  • sc woz
    sc woz ✭✭✭
    January 31 edited January 31

    @beverlypalmore

    Good morning

    The general page for the FamilySearch Wiki Pages and you can drill down from there.

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. mod
    January 31

    You might want to take a look at this blog: https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/orphan-train-riders

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  • Mark McKenzie_1
    Mark McKenzie_1 ✭✭✭
    January 31 edited January 31

    @beverlypalmore Not quite what you're looking for… but in the Divorce record for his adoptive parents he is mentioned as being an adopted son, age seventeen. Rest is all circumstantial, but supportive of your speculation. The first appearance of 'Harold' in Oklahoma in the records I was able to find is 1928 in Carter County. When he first arrived and where is hard to say. The adoption could have been in one of several counties… with what I think are most likely — Carter County and Pittsburg County. As was suggested, I'd dig into what Oklahoma records may hold for the Orphan Trains….

    https://orphantraindepot.org/research-and-registration/

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