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How are spouses’ information to be handled/linked from family groups to other lines?

Gordon Taylor1
Gordon Taylor1 ✭
January 15, 2024 edited March 29, 2024 in Social Groups

At marriage we have a new unit, where should primary data reside – male or female side including memories? We need to be consistent. Should be be a Family Group policy?

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  • Gordon Collett
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    January 17, 2024

    From what I have seen as another user, I would say that at this point you should try to keep the data consistent between all the groups it should be in. For example, information about you should be on your private copy of yourself that only you can see, the version of yourself that is in the family group that includes you, your wife and your family, and the version of yourself that is in the family group that has you, your wife, and her family (unless your family and your wife's family are planning on have one big family group for both sides).

    We don't need to be consistent or have a policy. We just need to put information everywhere it needs to be. Remember that Family Groups will increase the number of duplicate private profiles, not decreased them. There will be a copy of you in your private space and a unique copy of you in each of the family groups you might belong to.

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  • Gordon Taylor1
    Gordon Taylor1 ✭
    January 18, 2024

    I thought the purpose of Family Groups was to reduce duplication, increase collaboration and manage the content of deceased.

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  • Gordon Collett
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    January 18, 2024 edited January 18, 2024

    Family Groups have nothing to do with the deceased, only living people. Currently any user can manage the data of any deceased person and duplication of deceased people is reduced by merging all profiles of any deceased person until there is only one. Nothing is going to change with that.

    For many users, belonging to a Family Group will increase duplication because they will have the copy of a living person in their personal private space and the copy of that same living person in the shared Family Group private space that individuals in that group call all see.

    Family Groups will increase collaboration for living people because everyone in the group can work on one copy of any particular living person instead of each having their own.

    Where duplication will be reduced would be in the following situation: a grandson wants to set up a FamilySearch account and work in Family Tree. His grandmother can create a profile in the shared Family Group for him. He can then create an account, create his personal private profile, get an invitation to the Family Group, and link his personal profile to the copy of him in the group. At that point he can ignore his private profile and work strictly on his group profile which is already attached to the living group profiles of his parents and grandparents. He does not need to create duplicates of his living parents and grandparents that only he can see to link himself to his deceased relatives in the general public tree.

    Something I asked about a few months ago and was answered that the situation was still under consideration as to what to do, was what would happen if the grandson misbehaves and the grandmother kicks him out of the group? Since he would then lose access to all information in the profiles of people in the group and be back to seeing just the profiles in his own private space (which at that point would just be him), should he be able to copy profiles out of the family group private space into his personal private space before he is dismissed from the group?

    I posted this diagram back during the first testing phase of Family Group Tree, as far as I am aware nothing has changed and this still shows the interaction between the various spaces in Family Tree:

    FamilyTree Spaces.jpg

    What will be interesting to hear will be how users manage the gradual divergence between the various profiles for the same living person. In my diagram above, the father's three profiles, CCCC-CCC, 3333-33, and X7X7-X7X will have different information unless user X and user Y work to keep their private profiles in sync with the group profile.

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