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What language/alphabet is being used in this document?

Vee
Vee ✭✭
May 17, 2023 edited May 17, 2023 in Social Groups

I was doing pretty good understanding and translating these Hungarian GK church records until I came to this section. The language and/or alphabet/script seems to be different than the later records in the same book. I could probably continue my search if I at least knew what letters (or shapes of letters) I should be looking for. Specifically these are 1874/1875 deaths/burials in Görög Katólikus Egyház, Nyírbéltek -- Anyakönyvek, 1788-1895 Film # 008205189.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSLT-M9PK-Y

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Thank you!

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 18, 2023

    I believe the alphabet is Cyrillic, but I don't know what language it's recording. Candidates for the language in a Greek Catholic register in Hungary include Church Slavonic, Ruthenian, Hungarian, and Greek, but as far as I know, Cyrillic was only used for the first two.

    I suggest leaving the indexing of a language you don't know to other indexers who do know it, especially when even the alphabet is different. Well-meaning indexers who don't know the language is how we end up with fathers "named" Pater Ignotus or babies "named" Halva, or on the more unusual end of the spectrum, a father inexplicably skipped, a mother (Aloysia) turned into a father (Aloysius), and the father's abbreviated religion and occupation (Cath. arendat.) turned into a mother: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVNX-338G. (No, in that case, the index did not serve its purpose; I found the record by paging through the images.)

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  • Vee
    Vee ✭✭
    May 18, 2023 edited May 18, 2023

    Oh, sorry for not mentioning this. This is not indexing. This is family. Looking for the Hulypa surname. I need to know what it looks like to find it.

    Do you have any suggestions where to learn more about this alphabet and language?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 19, 2023

    Sorry about misinterpreting or misunderstanding your purpose; on re-reading, I can see that I jumped to unwarranted conclusions. If you're researching, that's an entirely different kettle of fish from indexing.

    Unfortunately, Cyrillic and the languages written in it are not among my skills; I only know what the Internet tells me. You could perhaps start with FS's Research Wiki; it can generally at least point you toward further resources. For example, there's a bit about Rusyn/Ruthene/Ruthenian on the Slovakia Church Records Reading Aids page.

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  • JozsefMaizl
    JozsefMaizl ✭
    January 19, 2024

    Julia, you are right! The handwriting is Cyrillic.

    I recommend this seminar.


    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/reading-russian-documents-the-russian-alphabet

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