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W D Samuelsen contact me please
W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
January 7, 2023 edited July 11, 2024 in Family Tree

I see no one seems to respond to notices of missing cemetery place names lately.

Here's the missing cemetery - with almost 750 burials, and active

Saint Michael Cemetery, Dane, Dane, Wisconsin, United Staes

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/749315/saint-michael-cemetery

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    There's a Places group (https://community.familysearch.org/en/group/68-familysearch-places) where your suggestion might find more fruitful ground. Also, you can make individual suggestions using the Places tool (https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/).

    But in general, I think the database is perfectly fine without specific cemeteries being entered. You can include that information in either the displayed placename or the reason statement. It's not like you're going to use FS's map pin to program your GPS for a visit, right?

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023 edited January 7, 2023

    In the Places gazetteer, use the link + SUGGEST A NEW PLACE. The gazetteer team is very responsive. It really helps to provide them some URLs, such as a Wikipedia page with background information and a map pin from Google Maps where the cemetery can be seen on the ground.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    One problem with this site - Wikipedia does not list every active cemetery. Especially small ones.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    reply to dontknowyou: The link to Places gazetteer is not found.

    reply to Julia

    "database is perfectly fine without specific cemeteries being entered"

    WRONG! Has to have specific cemeteries listed in the database due to multiple cemeteries having same names in different locations, even in "next" towns. Some "Towns" have more than 1 cemetery. Even historic ones.

    This was discussed years ago and many of us agreed that the specific cemetery names have to be in the database to maintain accuracy.

    I used to send to this email address for years - placefeedback@familysearch.org

    Now, I get no prompt responses lately.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    @W D Samuelsen contact me please

    The FamilySearch Places gazetteer is here: https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    It is in the database: https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/?searchTypeaheadInputText=Saint%20michaels%20cemetery,%20Dane,%20Dane,%20Wisconsin,%20United%20States&text=Saint%20michaels%20cemetery,%20Dane,%20Dane,%20Wisconsin,%20United%20States&focusedId=10889320

    But it is currently marked "Provisional" so it is not available for use in Family Tree. Maybe someone with the Places team will see this and fix it.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    I don't understand the connection between the existence of same-named cemeteries in different places and the perceived need to have them all in the database.

    It is perfectly possible to enter "Cemetery, Town, County, State, Country" as the display value if the database only has "Town, County, State, Country". As with farm names, if the algorithm that populates the drop-down is being dumb, and only giving you "Cemetery, OtherTown, OtherCounty, State, Country", then you can first enter just "Town, County, State, Country", choose the correct standard, then go back and add "Cemetery" at the beginning and choose the reddish text at the top of the drop-down to keep what you've typed as the display. This will result in a display value of "Cemetery, Town, County, State, Country", associated with a standard (map pin location) of "Town, County, State, Country".

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    PlaceStandards wanted submissions. There were a lot of missed cemeteries in the database and do need to help from us.

    Using your method, it is very onerous.

    I have more than 30 in one cemetery (this cemetery). It's not the only one. I got hundreds in various cemeteries in New England area. In Appleton, Wisconsin there are 11 cemeteries and almost of my Wisconsin folks are buried in just 5 of them and numbered over 300 family burials alone (my folks were very early settlers when the area was open for settlement as well as German cousins and the descendants. Alongside these cemeteries, also in many nearby cemeteries outside of the City of Appleton.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023
    https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/

    link from WHERE? I looked up under each drop down menus. NOT found. "Research" is not even mentioned at all.

    You're not making it any easier.

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023 edited January 7, 2023

    As long as the location (town / city) is properly standardized I, too, have never seen the need for cemeteries to need a separate entry in the database. As Gordon Collett has illustrated many times, your home address or whatever can be added as a prefix to the standardized place, if you want that as the name displayed on the Details page. I wouldn't expect FamilySearch to add my street to the database, even if hundreds (in some cases thousands of individuals) have lived, been born, or died in a specific street over the years. Why make an exception for cemeteries if the "map pin location" is going to show up no differently to the town in which it (the cemetery or whatever) is located?

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    Paul W.

    Obvious you're not descendant of either Catholic or Lutheran.

    BIG difference. There are even some places with same cemetery name. Saint Mary is the most common name and you have to know WHICH Saint Mary it is.

    Most common Catholic names: Saint Mary, Saint Michael, Saints Peter and Paul, Saint Joseph, Holy Name, Holy Family, Calvary

    Most common Lutheran names: Saint John, Saint Olaf, Saint Michael, Saint Peter

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 7, 2023

    I've already submitted over 8 years, more than 100 cemeteries and every one was accepted. And not counting how many cemeteries whose names were wrong, corrected and accepted.

    Some cemeteries were listed outside of the cities in error and corrected.

    All because I supplied specific locations and photo evidences of names.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 8, 2023 edited January 8, 2023

    link from WHERE?

    There are 2 main links to the Places gazetteer.

    From the Site Map, which is a link on the bottom of most FamilySearch web pages:
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    From any event edit pop-up on the OLD profile details page:
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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 8, 2023

    Dontknowyou:

    " OLD profile details page:"

    The old version will go away very soon.

    So let's report this missing feature for new version.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    January 10, 2023

    I made a report today on another missing active cemetery at

    https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/

    Now I need to know how to report an error of place linked to parish records (in Germany). There are 3 indexed (emphasis already indexed) parish records linked to wrong parish (same name but in different districts).

    Infuriating that I had to correct every one (2 wrong: Bitburg, correct: Saarburg, another wrong: Bitburg, correct: Merzig).

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