Would like to request a record that is not available online
Hi,
I would like to request this image: "Italia, Trento, Diocesi di Trento, Registri Parrocchiali, 1548-1937," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XVYV-7P1 : 8 November 2017), Assunta Turinelli, 21 Aug 1880; citing Baptism, Annunciazione di Maria Vergine, Lodrone, Storo, Trento, Italy, Archdiocesi di Trento (Archdiocese of Trento), Italy; FHL microfilm 1,448,064.
That is not available online. I tried from a familysearch history center library without success as well.
How can I go about it?
Thanks in advance
Fernando
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I have the record you wanted, if you still need it.
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This is an indexed record with no image available. Release of images is at the discretion of the record holder, which would appear to be Diocesi di Trento. You would have to request the image personally from the record holder in Italy. Such requests are outside the scope of FamilySearch.
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Ok, thank you very much for the information
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To add to @dontiknowyou's comment, some Roman Catholic dioceses are very protective of their records. The Catholic church strongly disagrees with Latter Day Saint ordinances, therefore some dioceses will not publish their records online so that the information within cannot be used to perform ordinances.
I suggest that in your communication with the diocese that you emphasize you are seeking the records for personal non-religious genealogical purposes.
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Another option - the images are available if you visit the main Family History Library in Salt Lake City. There are researchers - some paid, some volunteer - who will retrieve records for you.
I know someone who may be able to help. If you would like me to try, let me know, @Fernando6792
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There is a website with very helpful links to a Nati index project for Trentino (aka Trento).
I do not believe it will lead you to the actual register for that Parish, but it does lead you to a useful search tool here:
That will allow you to search the same data you found on FS and yield matching results which confirm the same information already provided.
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Although @Áine Ní Donnghaile's suggests the image can be viewed at the FHL in Salt Lake City, Utah, the fact that the images are not available now suggests they may not be viewable there either, even though FamilySearch did film them. The FamilySearch Research Wiki indicates the images used to be available online (and since the images are not available online now, that page needs updating):
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Given that there is a DGS number and an image number, the records should be available in SLC, @dontiknowyou. Better to ask than assume they are not available.
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Thank you all for the explanation and suggestions! Ill try to contact the church directly.
Thanks
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The catalogue record for the above record from Lodrone is https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/505965?availability=Family%20History%20Library which indicates that it is available at the Family History Library.
In addition, I believe that the microfilm would be available to view at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City in terms of the following
Article Id: 1621 dated September 14, 2022 "How can I search microfilms at the FamilySearch Library?"
which says
When films are not yet available online, you can search the physical microfilms or microfiche at the FamilySearch Library in Salt Lake City.
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I hope the record @Fernando6792 wants to consult is available on microfilm or microfiche. Certainly it is worth asking.
However, as I said, if the collection in fact was online in the past and is not online now, then FHL won't be able to help. The fallback then is to contact the diocese in Italy.
This blog announcing completion of the scanning of legacy microfilms explains at the bottom that some collections FamilySearch has scanned and indexed are not accessible even on microfilm/fiche.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/familysearch-microfilm-collection-digitized
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