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Rheta
Rheta ✭
November 15, 2022 edited July 12, 2024 in Family Tree

I have come across two sisters who were most likely created from the 1850 Census of Great Salt Lake, where they are listed under their step-father, Elijah Fordham, and their mother, Amelia Brown.

Julia J Fordham

1837 – Deceased • M27D-S7W

and

Henrietta Fordham

about 1838 – Deceased • M27D-SWG

They are floating, all alone, with no parents, siblings, spouses, or children. Just taking space, to never be joined to anyone, because they never existed as listed here.

Where they truly belong are Read-Only listings, without even the source listed that these two were created from.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRB7-11P?i=31&cc=1401638&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMCS6-B9N

Step-Father - Elijah Fordham

8 March 1798 – 9 September 1879 • LYX9-775

Mother - Amelia Brown

15 May 1804 – 18 May 1877 • KWV9-L3M

Their father is actually:

Father - Matthias Freeman Spencer

6 May 1804 – 9 February 1883 • KWV9-L39


Julia is also all alone, and Read-Only under her married surname as:

Julia J Snow

9 April 1837 – Deceased • KWJC-NXG


Here the two girls are, Read-Only, as they truly existed:


Julia Josephine Spencer

9 April 1837 – 31 October 1909 • KWJ4-KJN

and

Henrietta Spencer

5 March 1839 – 1 January 1886 • KWJ8-DGZ


Does anyone know how to clean up this mess?

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Answers

  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 16, 2022

    @Rheta You have to get a Community Moderator to bring up your request for read-only merge to whichever team it is that handles those. Your post here is good - I flagged your post for moderator review - hopefully it will result in the help you need.

    You may also need to provide the team some further documentation if the sources attached under read-only profiles don't clear things up enough.

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  • Rheta
    Rheta ✭
    November 16, 2022

    Thank you! I'm thrilled someone responded so quickly to help. It makes me sad to see people so all alone when there is no need for it.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    November 16, 2022

    These girls were wives of Erastus Snow and Edward Hunter, both General Authorities (Apostle and Presiding Bishop respectively.)

    As with the other General Authorities, including those in First Presidency as well as those in other positions, are subjected to restrictions. Same restrictions also apply to the United States Presidents and many other certain very prominent people.

    Restrictions were quickly imposed on Barack Obama's parents and grandparents to prevent others from doing temple work as soon as it was discovered.

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 16, 2022 edited November 16, 2022

    @W D Samuelsen contact me please

    ? yes the profiles are read-only (as mentioned) - are you saying FamilySearch will not review this request to merge these profiles? Are you saying this as a FamilySearch representative?

    I believe I have seen other requests to merge to read-only - which are handled by some FamilySearch team. Usually from what I have seen/recall - a Moderator comes on the thread and indicates that a private message has been sent to the person initiating the request...

    If there is some other policy in play here of which I am unaware - please inform me. I don't want to point read-only requests to FamilySearch moderators needlessly. Here is the Help Center document which prompted my action:

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-read-only-records-in-family-tree


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  • Rheta
    Rheta ✭
    November 17, 2022

    This is the first time I have ever done this, so, not even sure how to respond to anyone.

    I don't care who fixes the problem, but there are obviously 3 names floating around, all alone, who should be merged into the true person. Which makes 5 total names, which should only be two.

    Hopefully these comments will garner the attention of someone who can take care of this.

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  • W D Samuelsen contact me please
    W D Samuelsen contact me please ✭✭✭
    November 17, 2022

    I went through with somebody at FamilySearch Library to correct one certain President's family since I had so much more accurate information for that one (he happens to be close relative.)

    Now that particular sub-department had been closed down, I don't know of anyone to handle these "read only" records.

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 17, 2022

    @W D Samuelsen contact me please

    Now that particular sub-department had been closed down, I don't know of anyone to handle these "read only" records.

    Hmm, that doesn't sound right... I guess wait and see. If true that is ... not a good move.

    (sorry @Rheta - but it doesn't sound right that no one is available to handle read-only merges)

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  • Rheta
    Rheta ✭
    November 18, 2022

    I agree @genthusiast

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  • Carla Tobler
    Carla Tobler ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 1, 2022

    @Rheta

    Thank you for posting your question in the Community regarding merging read-only records. We are sorry it has taken so long for you to receive a reply to your request.

    Your question has been forwarded to a specialty team for review and resolution. This specialty team may contact you should they need further information.

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  • Rheta
    Rheta ✭
    December 2, 2022

    Thank you!

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