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Names processed -- in local temple versus other temples
I am a member of the Ft Laud Florida Temple District
over many years I have had a very large number of names in the Reserved list -- as part of the Temple File. These names get routed to temples across the world.
HOWEVER as long as I can remember -- - I have noted that about 90% of my names get routed to my own local temple and about 10% get routed to all other temples.
I am wondering what the rest of you see in your temple districts?
of your names in TEMPLE FILE -- what percent get done at your local temple and what percent get done in other temples (a general guess as to the percentage)
I was told yesterday by a lady in the St George Temple district that of her many names in a similar situation -- that her names seem to get evenly distributed across all temples. That may merely be because the St George temple is closed. BUT I was surprised the rate that her names were getting done. (even quicker than the 10% of mine being done at other temples)
so Im wonder what the rest of you are experiencing? (most names being done by local temple - or most names seemingly being equally distributed across all temples)
THANKS for your feedback.
also another person told me they submitted a few thousand names about 4 years back and not a single one (or extremely few?) have even been started yet.
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no fellow users can share their experience??
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I have submitted thousands of names over the last several years. I live in Mt. Timpanogos district, and I would say that about half of my names completed are at this temple. I rarely submit baptisms, but if I do, they are usually done within months, Intiatories are done in about a year, Sealings done in a few years. Endowments is another story, I have many that have been waiting over 7 years. My understanding is that there is around 19 years worth of endowments. Thanks to the ordinance ready, my Endowments are starting to get done. Currently about 10 are done per month from people reserving them through Ordinance Ready. None are being pulled by the temples and done for me. So, at this rate it will take 15 years to get through all my endowments.
I have heard that if people try to pull ordinances from Ordinance Ready and they don't have any of their own family records that the system can find, then it pulls names from people in your temple district. I also heard a couple of years ago they were going to try to even it out and spread it out to other districts, so it will even out the work. I'm not sure what the current status is.
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Shared with temple names are pulled by people who are related to those individuals via Ordinances Ready and can be done in any temple in the world. Also other users can reserve these names directly from the Tree and perform in any temple. If the temple pulls the names, they are currently being pulled from your own temple district. Soon, temples will pull from a central list - first in, first out. When that happens you will see older shared ordinances being completed in temples all over the world.
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My names are already being pulled from temples around the world - not just my own.
BUT the ratio is about 90% local to 10% non local.
Temples are already pulling from a central list.
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Though indeed I think there are some pending changes - so that they are more equally distributed across temples.
BUT Temples already pull from the central temple file all the time - and get names from potentially reservers aroudn the world. Though I think by default - names from local reservers are pulled in first.
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I was just hoping that others here in the Community would share there experiences as to what percentage of local versus non local they are experiencing on Temple files.
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I would suspect that your names being pulled are being pulled by either through another person directly or through ordinance ready, and not from any temple. I spent many months tracking ordinances that I shared with the temple, and every time they were done, they had always been reserved by someone beforehand. It used to be that there would be a temple sign next to the name on your reservation list that meant the temple had pulled the name. Now I can't figure out the purpose of that symbol, as when I pull up the name, it shows that an individual has reserved what I shared, and the name hasn't really been pulled by the temple, like it appears.
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The temple symbol means that another user has printed the last remaining ordinance on that row and that row is locked. You cannot unshare it anymore from the shared temple list.
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I guess its possible - but definitely not my impression
I mean what would a temple do if they ran out of names from local submitters - they would still make a request from the temple file and it would still be be provided - but from other temple districts if there were no names from their own district submiter.
The temple wouldn't just shut down because they didnt have enough names from their local reservers.
I am really pretty certain that my names are being pulled from temples around the world -- and not just people finding names in tiheir family tree.
I get names done from temples like Nigeria, Haiti, Rome, Tahiit - where the chances are much less likely to be cousins on my family tree who are just reserving names from the common family tree
I also have seen many names that are "stand alone names" -- not attached to any very extended family tree - family names that most people would never even find to begin with to reserve . . . and they still get processed from temples around the world. (at a rate of about 90% local and 10 non local)
BUT I do imagine that some temples are very self sufficient as to doing most all their names from own local submitters and other temples might have the opposite of having to pull in names from th central temple file of names that actually came form other temple districts.
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I have been tracking all my shared temple ordinances. The majority (95%) have been reserved by other users (either via Ordinances Ready or directly from the Tree). I can see the users names attached to the reservation. Occasionally (5%) I find a shared ordinance that shows in a printed status with no name attached. When it is completed, it has been completed by my local temple.
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Thats not what Im seeing on my names.
What temple district do you belong to?
I mean I agree that other people can reserve people on my list . . . it does surely happen and can happen often -- but I still see my names being done from around teh world -- and not just by people reserving them - but them coming from the tempel file.
I will see if I can track more closlely
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BUT I do agree - there is supposedly something on the forefront related to this all - that will allow the system to more equally distribute names across any temple across the world - not just the local one.
anyone have any idea when that will be?? Ive been hearing that rumor for a few years now.
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See this video from Ron Tanner from March 2022 - RootsTech:
https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/session/whats-coming-on-familysearch-for-members
Sounds like it is still coming in the future.
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So here is one example of
How do I tell if this work done In Haiti -- was pulled via temple file or pulled via a person reserving?
Im almost certain it is temple file. But I don't know if I can really prove it after the fact.
note the endowment is still showing as my name from when I shared with temple.
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So . . . regardless as to the discussion of whether the non local temple is doing it via temple file - or whether a resident of that out of region district did a reservation of the name (thus not really true temple file).
what are most of you seeing as to local temple vs non local temple percentages on your temple file completes?
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You won't be able to tell once it's done. Go to your shared reservations, select printed ones. You can look at each of those that have been printed and see if it has been reserved by someone else or the temple. For awhile there I was tracking all of my names being done and they all came from this list of shared printed ordinaces.. Almost every one, like 99%, were reserved by an individual. Once the ordinance is done, you won't be able to see the person who did it, only the temple they did it at.
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I think the 99% is relative.
for you it may be 99% but for various other factors -- I think for someone else it could be much less.
factors may include - what temple district you belong to, what counry-locality your names belong to, and if your names are part of a massive extended tree - or pretty much "stand alone records" not connected to an extensive tree, whether yoru local temple is "self sufficient" as to names.
I have someone that has submitted names in the St George Temple district (St George Temple is currently closed) -- she is getting her names done at a very good clip and across the entire world -- at a rate of about 300 ordinances per month. Surely some of them are people pulling them from the reserved list as you state - but I very much get the impresson a large number are true temple files.
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but regardless - what percent of your names are done at non local temples - just wondering.
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can you send me a screen shot of what you see on your Shared With Temple list -- when someone else reserves it (before they actually complete it)? (it still stays on your list - right?)
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Here are two examples - from people whom I'm related to that are reserved and shared to the temple by other users.
1st example - Michael has shared the ordinances to the temple and Madisyn has reserved them from the shared temple file.
2nd example - Cathy has shared the ordinances to the temple and the baptism is Printed with no other associated user name. This is a temple that has pulled this ordinance from the shared temple file.
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Well, I'm in Utah county, with 10 temples within an hour, so I'm not sure what "local" is. I can tell you about half of the ordinances are done in my temple, 30% in other Utah temples and 20% in out of state temples. I never have names done from temples in other countries.
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Here's my shared list of the names that are currently printed. You can see I filtered to those that are printed and there are currently 116.
You have to click on the person's name and go to their ordinance page to see if the name has been printed by the temple or another user. Below you can see that Anna Catherine McCallum has been reserved for and printed by Maggie Powelson here. If the temple had reserved it, it would say, "Endowment In Progress-Printed" and there would be no other person showing as reserved.
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local ( for my purposes ) would ONLY be your ONE assigned temple - as far as I understand - any other temples besides your own are all on an equal distribution level (at least what I assumed)
thats intereting I commonly get names done by
Australia, Rome, Nigeria, Haiti, Samoa, Tahiti
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Using the DOWNLOAD option of the completed ordinances is an interesting exercise as it allows for some nice analysis in EXCEL.
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