How can I find out what information was given for temple work completed
Martha Hosmer G3CT-NVK has temple ordinances completed in 2019. The only information with a date and place is a marriage date 6 Feb 1846 in Nauvoo. Was this the information used to complete the temple work? I believe this is probably Martha Clarrisa Hosmer LZJR-GS6 who was never married in her lifetime to James Dunn born 1810. Martha Clariss Hosmer would have only been 12 years old in 1846 and she never lived in Nauvoo.
Is there a way to find what event was used for the ordinances for Martha Hosmer G3CT-NVK. There have been several merges for this person and I cannot be sure who these ordinances belong to.
I do have additional information on Martha Clarissa Hosmer. Her mother was Mary Dunn, a sister to the James Dunn born 1810.
Thank you for help or suggestions.
Paula Paradise
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Yes, families are complicated! I have somewhat of a similar situation in which a great-great-aunt of mine died when she was engaged and a couple of months later she was sealed to her fiancé anyway. And a couple of greats back grandfather who lived in the US who while he was alive was sealed to four deceased women who lived their entire lives in Europe. They may have been distant relatives.
I'm sure in 100 years our descendants will look back at some of the things in our lives and scratch their heads over some of the things we currently do as well.
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Since Martha Hosmer G3CT-NVK has absolutely no information other than her marriage in Nauvoo then, yes, that was the information used to complete her ordinances.
Since you know Martha Clarrisa Hosmer LZJR-GS6 was never married in Nauvoo and never married to a James Dunn, then clearly there is absolutely no way for Martha Hosmer and Martha Clarrisa Hosmer to be the same person.
Looking at the change log for Martha Hosmer G3CT-NVK, that record has not had any merges. And is sounds like things should certainly stay that way for now and you should stick to working on Martha Clarrisa. However, if you want to know about Martha, you could always try messaging the gentleman who created her record in 2019.
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Martha Clarissa Hosmer was sealed to James Dunn in 1877 in the St. George Temple by her uncle, Simeon Adams Dunn. James Dunn born 1810 is the uncle of Martha Hosmer. There is no known marriage for James Dunn born 1810. The Martha's are probably the same person, but if I merge them What will happen with the temple ordinances? The person who created the record is my cousin.
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Since the person who created the record was your cousin, it should be easy to have a nice long conversation about these people.
Looking a bit more through the records, I see that James Dunn died in 1846. By any chance was that 1877 sealing just a sealing only of two deceased people to get James sealed to a wife? That was a pretty common tradition in the late 1800's, probably based on the teaching that one needs to be sealed to achieve the highest degree of exaltation. We've since be taught that is not the way to do things.
Anyway, the first thing to do is talk to your cousin and find out where he got that marriage date and then go to work to figure out whose it really is.
If you do decide to merge the two Martha some day after careful consideration of all information you can find, if she is not connected to James Dunn in Family Tree, the sealing will just not display in Family Tree. It will still be present in the ordinances database which we do not have access to. Whether the sealing is valid or not will depend on whether James and Martha want it to be.
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Yes both were deceased. Family stories are always complicated and involved. Martha was born in Huron County Michigan. Little is known about James Dunn, except what has been passed down in the family as Stories and a brief history from his brother, Simeon Adams Dunn. Simeon says he was baptized by his brother, James Dunn and church history records a James Dunn who was a companion to Stephen Post in Michigan. The problem: there were probably at least 5 men named James Dunn in Nauvoo and it is difficult to sort them out. two endowments. One done in Nauvoo 6 Feb 1846 for a James Dunn born 6 June 1810 Phelps, N. Y. and wife Sarah. and another James Dunn born 26 Sep 1788 born: Pennsylvania. end 31 Jan 1846 with wife, Elizabeth.
This is the ordinance completed at the request of Simeon Adams Dunn
James Dunn/ Male/ Birth: 27 Jun 1810 , , Canada/ Sealing to Spouse: 7 Dec 1877 SGEOR, Martha Clorinda Hosmer/ Marriage: Martha Clorinda Hosmer, 7 Dec 1877 Saint George, Washington, Utah/ Source: Film #170596, Page # , Ref #194 [I do not believe James Dunn and Martha Clarinda Hosmer were ever married in life. She would have been 11 years old when James Dunn died. Martha is the daughter of Artemas Hosmer and Mary Dunn]
FHL Film 170596 Saint George Temple Sealings/ page 20-21/
[no number] James Dunn (dead in bracket) Heir: Simeon Adams Dunn/ When born: 27 June 1810/ Where born: Canada West/ When sealed: 7 Dec 1877/ where sealed: St. George/ by whom sealed: D. L. McAllister/ Witnesses: Lorenzo Brown, Geo Woodward
194. Martha Clorinda Hosmer (dead in bracket)/ Proxy: Frances Crosby Brown/ When born: 8 June 1834/ Where born: Huron, , Mich/ When sealed: 7 Dec 1877/ where sealed: St. George/ by whom sealed: D. L. McAllister/ Witnesses: Lorenzo Brown, Geo Woodward
There is a James Dunn listed as buried in Nauvoo, but no other information, so it is difficult to know for sure which James Dunn it might be.
I am sure you don't want to know all this. Just trying to share that we have done a lot of research on this family, but there are still unanswered questions. I can talk to my cousin, but he is now 92 and not in great health. This may have come from an old Family Group sheet.
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