What more is needed to complete work for recently deceased?
I've been requested by sister-in-law to complete ordinances for two of her adult daughters who died within the last 4 months. They were BIC, but never endowed. One never married, the other divorced from non-member. How do I obtain baptism/confirmation dates, so I can enter them in family search then print temple cards that show this work is already done? I'm assuming their mom, who is in a care facility, does not have this info, nor would any of their siblings. How do I request it and from where?
Thank you for contacting FamilySearch Community. Here are some articles that will assist you in requesting these names:
"When submitting names for proxy temple ordinances, members should generally submit only the names of persons to whom they are related" (General Handbook: Serving in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 18.104.22.168).
Before you can request ordinances for an unrelated friend, you must first submit signed permission from a close living relative of your friend.
A close living relative is an undivorced spouse (the spouse to whom the individual was married at the time of death), an adult child, a parent, a brother, or a sister. Please see the General Handbook, 28.1.
Before you start
Make sure that you have signed, written permission from one of your friend's close living relatives. We cannot accept signed, written permission from yourself or your deceased friend, it must be from the closest living relative. Word the written permission this way:
I, (name of person giving permission), give (your name) permission to do temple work in a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints temple, for (name of deceased), who is my (relationship to person giving permission). (Signature of person giving permission)
If your deceased friend has no close living relatives that can provide written permission, then a request cannot be granted.
- Add your deceased friend to Family Tree. For help doing this, please see the related article below, titled: How do I add an unconnected person to Family Tree?
- Note your friend's ID number in Family Tree.
- To request the ordinances, contact FamilySearch. Be prepared to provide this information:
- The Family Tree ID of the person for whom you want to do ordinance work.
- The full name of the person for who you want to do ordinance work.
- The name of the person who gave permission and that person's relationship to the deceased.
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Sorry to hear of your family's loss. That must have been rough on your sister-in-law to lose two children.
You cannot enter baptism and confirmation dates into Family Tree. These can only come from a person's official church record.
The procedure that is supposed to occur is for a church member's ward clerk to enter the death information of that person on his or her record. Then generally within days a Family Tree record is automatically created from that person's membership record containing all the information from the membership record including all ordinances completed while alive. Then any duplicate profiles others have created in Family Tree can be merged into that record and then any needed ordinances can be requested and completed.
A hold up can occur when the person's last ward clerk never was informed about the person's death.
So one option is to find out where those two daughters lived at the time of their passing. From that you can find out what wards they were in. Contact the ward clerks and have them pull in their records, if they don't already have them, and add the death information.
The other option is to wait for a moderator here to contact you via a private direct message so that you can supply the moderator with full names and birth information for the sisters along with death information and some type of proof of death, such as an obituary or copy of a death certificate. (Do NOT post that information here.) They can then usually find the membership record, add the death information, and get the Family Tree record you need to appear.
The most efficient way to reserve the ordinances, if your sister-in-law is a member, is to visit her with a laptop, set up a FamilySearch account if she does not already have one, set yourself up as a helper for her, and as her helper reserve and print the ordinance cards. Then she is reserving them, not you, and she will not need to request permission to do them.0
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