1950 Header Document signature problem

W D Samuelsen

Noticed right away.

Every signature (by enumerator and checker)

is treated wrong way

Della M Burroughs is treated as Della, M Burroughs (treating given name as surname and surname as given name constantly)

Also I noticed something so bizarre constantly.

Here's the example, name does not match signature at all. Constantly in every header I did.

signature.jpg

W D Samuelsen

Read vs actual names

-, Alfred J > Marietta M. Mongar

Laura, Harsley > Laura Horsley

-, Eva Maenson > Eva Mae Benson

Elsie, B Mary > Elsie B Moore

-, D Comine > D Romine

Grace, Myers > Grace Myers

-, Charles A John > Chester A Cramblif

-, Ada May Smith > Ada May Smith

Carles, Denning > Charles G Demin

checker

blank > -, Marietta M.

Edwin Power St > Edwin W Powers Jr

How bad does this have to go on?

VW_via_England

Hope they fix this soon. It is a MASSIVE waste of effort to fix these.

AndLinda

@W D Samuelsen and @VW_via_England , the automated/computerized indexing did not read these names correctly, but I'm sure the designing engineers of system are constantly working on it to perfect it. When we run across these, we are to correct them. This is our job as reviewers when reviewing this project, is to make sure the information is correct. It is the same in regular indexing when we are reviewing. Many times we correct what the indexer of the record put. Please take the comma out of the name when you see this happening. You are very much appreciated.

Penny Schrock

So we remove the comma so that it reads Della R Horst instead of Della, R Horst? Just want to make sure that someone doesn't have to go back and fix these so that it reads Horst, Della R. I tried reading the FAQ's but it doesn't give an example of how the name should appear. Same for the Checked by. It would be very helpful if the FAQ's were updated to include how the information should read. The other area I'm not sure about is the date checked by. If they write 4/5 - should it be spelled out April 5?

AndLinda

@Penny Schrock, yes, you remove the comma so it reads Della R Horst. We put what the document has and correct to match the document in the indexed fields if the computer didn't read it correctly, such as the computer putting a comma in the name. As far as the date, we are instructed to type it as it is written in the document.

HBaer

AndLinda, It's not so much that the computer accidentally puts a comma in some names. Every name that I've seen either has a -, firstname lastname or it has firstname, lastname. Like the field has been set up to accept lastname, firstname. But every name I've seen is a signature, so firstname lastname. If the field could be set up without the comma, it would make things a lot easier.

kalh7338

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/447671#Comment_447671

@AndLinda I haven't index in a while but when I use to they told us not to include punctuation. So in the case for Della R Horst, if the document has it written Della R. Horst, do we include the punctuation?

CaptBob

I understand that, for some unknown reason, FS is 'required' to do what Ancestry has designed; BUT could someone explain the Genealogical value of the NAME of the enumerator & WHY so much time is used (wasted?) in deciding how to index it (or even to bother with indexing it). Ignore it & leave it to AI; along with many (most) if these indexing requiring.

Streamline & get the task done MUCH faster. In the meantime I'll personally just stick to 'Name Review'

AndLinda

@kalh7338, thank you for asking about the punctuation. "Include punctuation that is used in the person’s name. If you are making a correction, try to type exactly what you see on the page." Yes, go ahead and type or verify what you see.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-review-names-that-have-been-abbreviated-or-that-include-punctuation