re. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/G6X1-TL7
This Dyson tree, as displayed, has multiple problems, with unconnected individuals mixed in across the generations. To my mind it is so wrong it should be deleted altogether - it would set a novice on entirely the wrong path. I don't feel I have the authority to do this.
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Anthony
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
[ With what appears to be your first post ... ]
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Just in passing ...
Firstly ...
It is NOT just, a SIMPLE matter, of "Deleting" a 'Tree' ...
As, such, is just a "Branch" (ie. Ancestral" Line), that is interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
Secondly ...
It is NOT just, that you lack the "Authority" ...
It is generally, that we DO NOT have, the "Ability", to "Delete" individuals/persons (&, Especially, 'on-mass') ...
The caveat; being, they we MAY, have the "Ability", to "Delete" individuals/persons, the we created; as, long as, NO Other User/Patron, has "Contributed" to those individuals/persons.
Thirdly ...
Questions:
WHAT exactly, are the "Multiple" problem/issues?
HOW can, "Unconnected" individuals/persons, be "Mixed" with the Generations, of that "Ancestral" Lines?
[ ie. IF, they are "Unconnected" individuals/persons; THEN, they DO NOT connect, to that "Ancestral" Line ... ]
Finally ...
I am not saying/implying, that there are NOT, Problems/Issues, with that "Ancestral" Line ...
BECAUSE ...
I a CERTAIN, that here ARE, Problems/Issues, with that "Ancestral" Line, just like EVERY other "ancestral" Line ...
That is what, we are "All" TRYING, to address/fix ...
"Blank" DELETION, is NOT the 'Answer' ...
It is a matter, of working through, the "Ancestral" Line to, sort through; and, work out, the Problem/Issues ...
It is; as, Simple as that ...
Just my thoughts.
I know, that this certainly may not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective; and, another avenue to move forward.
Brett
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Thanks for your response.
I am familiar with this tree Brett as it is my own, hence the shock when I came across this corrupted version of it in Family Search. I really hoped to find a way of tagging it to warn others.
As I mentioned, I am not comfortable tinkering with other people's work - if others do that, let them. I feel your respected analysis rather missed the mark of what I needed to know - how to place a gentle caution tag on a dubious tree, rather than just on individual data - even whether or not there IS a way - I presume there would have to be.
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Anthony
Just in passing ...
Not really ...
Like it or not ...
In the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' ...
"Tinkering", with OTHER Users/Patrons work/effort/changes, is what, it HAS to be done, more often, than not ...
Whereas ...
Regarding, placing, 'a gentle caution tag', on a WHOLE 'Dubious', "Ancestral" Line ...
We CANNOT ...
It really is, a matter of, placing a "Caution", on EACH individual/person concerned ... 'Yes', a mammoth task ...
And ...
Unfortunately ...
NO matter, HOW, you apply, such a "Caution", MANY Users/Patrons, WILL still MISS it ... that is a, 'given' ...
[ eg. Life Sketch; and/or, Vitals; and/or, Other Information; in fact, wherever ... ]
Just trying to be realistic.
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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Hi Anthony.
There is very little to add to what @Brett has so completely explained, and I understand your reluctance to make changes, but this is how we help the tree become more accurate. Just as with a live tree, pruning and grafting are essential to maintaining its growth and well-being, and this is also true with the Family Tree.
I don't believe that any of us (well, very, very few), intentionally add incorrect data, and so it's down to each of us to examine any data that conflicts with our own findings to try and understand what has gone wrong. Kind and understanding communications with others who submit work, are often the best ways forward, respecting that none of us has a monopoly on accuracy, and it may just be that we are incorrect in some assumptions we have made or conclusions we have reached.
Examine what has been added to your part of the tree and don't be afraid to ask questions if things don't make sense at first sight, but similarly, don't be afraid to use your secateurs to prune as necessary, remembering that nothing is ever 'lost' from the tree.
Good gardening
Barry
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Here are some suggestion, in case they may be helpful. I apologize if you are already aware of these processes.
You may want to edit the relationships of the individuals who should not be part of your family. You can use the following to disconnect/ remove some individuals from your Family Tree.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/a-person-in-family-tree-has-the-wrong-spouse
And add good reason statements.
Also add information in other areas to back up what you do not want changed. The URL below may help with that:
Good luck.
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Hi Anthony,
I appreciate your concern for telling your bloodline's life story as accurate as you believe it has been done elsewhere.
I would agree with Barry most come to the "newer concept" Family Tree or Wikitree with the best intentions. I think you can appreciate that the building of a body of research for a family, a person, a line.... takes time. The profile you've bumped into is quite new. Maybe the user is new also. Different contributors come and go, sharing time, work, expertise, resources, skillsets, patience levels, understanding of the tree's tools or lack there of, etc....such is life.
Can gentle caution tags be added? yes....examples such as "research caution ", "beware of propagated errors x, y...z", "Do not confuse this family with x family", "headstone reads x but baptismal record says z", "Propagated Findagrave assumptions in error", "This family is often linked to wrong parents at Ancestry.com leaf clicking" etc. are often used at the profile level and accomplish possibly the same end you might seek.
It is hard to suggest remedies without knowing specific problems with the profile. Maybe your gentle caution tags can be added to the matriarch or patriarch's life sketch, notes or specific vital that causes problems for others.
Enjoy the research and sharing journey!
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It appears that some other genealogists are at the very early stages of building here what you have already built elsewhere. They may not know your tree exists. Perhaps they would welcome a guiding hand.
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