Can't unreserve just sealings
I talked to my local temple and they told me that sealings should not be done before the other work, so I'm trying to unreserve the sealings but it's making me unreserve all the ordinances-- including the ones I've already submitted to the temple. So I have a bunch of sealings that can't be done sitting in my list and I can't unreserve them without completely losing track of the person and their place in line for their other ordinances.
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Sarah
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
[ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]
Just in passing ...
Confusingly ...
The "Temple", is BOTH, "Right"; and, "Wrong" ...
The, preference; and, recommendation, remains, to do the "Temple" Work in "Order".
But ...
That Said ...
NOTHING is PERFECT ...
Things, DO NOT always, go to, 'plan' (or, follow, the 'script') ...
There are EXCEPTIONS to EVERY "Rule" ...
And, "Sealing to Parents"; &, "Sealing to Spouse", can fall under that; which, can sometimes be, an EXCEPTION.
Please let me explain ...
This is an ongoing dilemma, for many Members of the Church.
The matter, has been canvased, on numerous occasions, in the various 'iterations' for the 'FamilySearch' Forums.
One does not really have to be too concerned ...
We have been advised, that regardless if "Ordinances" are done 'Out of Sequence', not to worry; as, those "Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' simply DO NOT take effect, UNTIL the prerequisite "Ordinances" are "Completed".
And, most importantly ...
"Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' DO NOT have to be done again; as, they are STILL "Valid".
Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch':
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
Which states, among other things:
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Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Of course ...
Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?
Where it states, among other things:
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- The ordinances were inadvertently or intentionally performed out of order in error.
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Plus ...
Most IMPORTANTLY ...
In one of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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It is preferable to have the ordinances done in sequence
[ Note: The Words ... It is preferable ]
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And ...
Again ...
In the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
It also states, among other things:
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- Which used to read:SSealing of a husband and wife and sealing of children to parents (if possible). Whenever possible, parents should be sealed to each other before the children are sealed to the parents.
[ Note: The Words ... Whenever possible ]
But, now reads:
- It is preferred that sealings be done after individual ordinances, but it is not required. Family Tree does not enforce the order of sealings for deceased persons. A deceased couple can be sealed before their individual ordinances are done. Likewise, a deceased child can be sealed to deceased parents before the parents are sealed and before the parents’ individual ordinances are done.
[ Note: The improvement ... ]
[ And, once again ... ]
Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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Now ...
All That Said ...
Here is a reference, specifically about "OrdinancesReay" ....
"Knowledge Article", in 'FamilySearch':
How do I find family names for the temple with Ordinances Ready?
It also states, among other things:
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Before you start
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Notes:
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- Ordinances Ready does not determine if pre-requisite ordinances have been completed when sealing-to-spouse ordinances are requested. Please ensure that baptism, initiatory and endowment have been completed for each individual before proceeding with a sealing ordinance.
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IF, the "Temple' Work of, "Sealing to Parents"; and, "Sealing to Spouse", HAS been given by/through "OrdiancesReady"; THEN, ... OFFICIALLY ... that "Temple" Work, CAN be, undertaken; and, "Completed".
A "Temple" CANNOT "Refuse" to all such ...
So ...
That Said ...
Really ...
The choice is yours ...
As, to whether or not, you proceed, with the "Ordinances", that you received through "OrdinancesReady".
And ...
So, basically ...
In regards to "Sealing to Spouse" ...
The choice is yours.
And,
In regards, to the "Sealing to Parents", of a Child ....
Remember, that the "Temple" Work, relates to the Child; and, NOT, the to Parents.
So ...
That Said ...
Regardless, of the status, of "Temple" Work of the Parents, the "Sealing to Parents", for a Child CAN be undertaken.
But, again, the choice is yours.
Plus ...
Some "Temples", are ENFORCING, that the "Temple" Work be done in order; where, the Prerequisite "Ordinances", MUST be done FIRST, regardless of the aforementioned.
Unfortunately ...
'Old habits die hard' ...
IF, you have a problem/issue with a particular "Temple"; THEN, speak to the "Temple" Recorder, in person; and, pass on the aforementioned.
Good Luck.
I know that this might not give you comfort and address your concerns; but, I hope that this gives you some more, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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