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Rose Kunzinger
Rose Kunzinger ✭
February 27, 2022 edited July 16, 2024 in Family Tree

I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather from Caltagirone Italy, In the Church of San Giuliano. My problem is looking for his marriage to Rosa Aquippina Zimone before 1762 but there is no film. Is there any other way of finding this date and record? He is in the record index of 1777-1789, he is in part 2 page 337 # 35, but there is no part 2 available. This may be his second marriage to Antonia Caruso. I found her name on a death record in 1803 of Antonio. Also I am having trouble locating his son Jacobi Vincenti's marriage to Agnesia Mantello because of the same problem. 1777-1789 has no part 2 he is in index page 223 #4. I am hoping you can help me find these records as I have been looking for a very long time to find these ancestors. Thank you so very much any help will be appreciated

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  • Massimo C.
    Massimo C. ✭✭✭
    February 27, 2022 Answer ✓

    Dear Ms. Kunzinger,

    I've tried to look for the second part of the register "Matrimoni 1777-1789" here in Familysearch but as already told by you the register is not present.

    Here in Familysearch Images there are many images to be searched also related to marriages in 1762 but not directly related to San Giuliano, but more in general to Caltagirone, so you have to spend time for reviewing them :)

    Nevertheless due to the fact that you have the correct references for both marriages of Antonio and Jacobi, you can try to write directly to San Giuliano parish asking for a copy so below you can find its references:

    Parrocchia Cattedrale S. Giuliano in Caltagirone

    Address: via Duomo, 1 - 95041 Caltagirone (Catania - Italy)

    Phone: +39093324373

    Fax: 093324373

    E-mail: cattedrale.caltagirone@diocesidicaltagirone.it

    I hope this can help you in finding what you need and other people here can add other usefull information.

    Regards,

    Massimo

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    February 27, 2022 Answer ✓

    Thank you so much for answering my question. Also for the church information. I will be writing to them in hopes of an answer. Thanks again.

    Rose Kunzinger

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  • Massimo C.
    Massimo C. ✭✭✭
    March 5, 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi Rose,

    I've rebuild the tree for Carolus Franciscus Vincenti with her spouse Antonetta and their children and all documents I've found in FamilySearch, merging a lot of of different people and source documents.

    You can find the tree here https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9M1W-3RZ

    Now I have a more clear overview but now it's necessary to have some confirmations about the fact that your Antonio is really the son of Carolus Franciscus Vincenti shown in the afore-mentioned tree.

    If I well understood your initial comments, Antonio had a first marriage to Rosa Aquippina Zimone before 1762 and a second marriage to Antonia Caruso, than Antonio had a son Jacobi Vincenti's marriage to Agnesia Mantello. Is that correct?

    Many thanks if you may give me any other information with related sources

    Massimo

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  • Massimo C.
    Massimo C. ✭✭✭
    February 27, 2022

    It was a pleasure! I remain at your disposal in case you may need any other support 😊

    Massimo

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    February 27, 2022

    Thank you Massimo,

    I do have another brick wall that no one seems to be able to help me with. My maternal 5th great grandfather was Silvestro Sapienza , born, I believe in 1713. This is where it gets crazy. His daughter, Gregoria’s marriage in 1790, says her mother is Alphia Titime/Fitime. Then her death in 1842 says her mother is Maria Messina. Also I found Silvestro married to an Alfia Archiocono and having 5 children in the Stata Anime of ACI San Antonio which Also listed gregoria and Venerando as their children. I would love to know more information about these ancestors. They may have come from Bongiardo Italy but the book doesn’t go back to the 1700s. Hope you can help me. I would be so very grateful. Thank you. If you need any other information let me know

    also the email address you gave me for Caltagirone was unable to be delivered

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  • Massimo C.
    Massimo C. ✭✭✭
    February 27, 2022

    Dear Rose,

    Thank you for your message.

    Do you have a copy or the links of the documents you mentioned in your last message?

    Concerning instead the wrong email address, I'll let you know!

    Regards,

    Massimo

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    February 27, 2022

    Can I send you a word document with all the links?

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    February 27, 2022

    Also where do I send it?

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  • PiperTWilson
    PiperTWilson ✭✭✭
    February 28, 2022

    @Rose Kunzinger - It might be best to send @Massimo C. the document via a private message here. You can either attach the word document to your message or copy and paste the contents into the message.

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    February 28, 2022

    Yes , I did that. I hope he received it. Thank you.

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  • Rose Kunzinger
    Rose Kunzinger ✭
    March 5, 2022

    Hi Massimo, 

    wow, you did great. I also have Antonetta and Caroli’s death records

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJY-T9VM-N?cat=197418 5th down on left Caroli

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJY-T9J5-D?i=362&cat=197418 3rd down on left Antonetta

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZL-K38Y-X?i=8&cat=183893 4th on right Antonetta birth


    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81N6-9GT?i=309&wc=M6WJ-M38%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C63740801&cc=1493344 my Antonio possibly death top right 1803

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1NN-664?i=8&wc=M6WF-H6X%3A58113801%2C59325301%2C60423701&cc=1493344 Rosa Zimone birth 3rd from top 1743

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-91N6-93Y?i=157&wc=M6WN-1NL%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C63715801&cc=1493344 Rosa Zimone death 1st on top 1787

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-816B-PPV?i=113&wc=M6WX-PNL%3A58113801%2C58113802%2C59056301&cc=1493344 possibly Antonia Caruso death 4th from top 1796

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1N8-9C32?i=277&wc=M6WN-7TG%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C62786001&cc=1493344 Jacobi Vincenti birth 1st on top second child born 1765

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-91NF-H8G?i=450&wc=M6WN-129%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C63780801&cc=1493344 Jacobi Vincenti Death 4th from top 1817

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81N8-9ZHR?i=579&wc=M6WN-7TL%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C62768401&cc=1493344 Francesco Vincenti birth 1st on top 1st child born 1762

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81N8-9DKS?i=434&wc=M6WN-WM9%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C62827101&cc=1493344 Paulo Vincenti birth 2nd from top last child born 1776

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81N8-9XCS?i=427&wc=M6WN-Z29%3A58113801%2C61578701%2C62882101&cc=1493344 first child of Jacobi and Agnesia 3rd from top 1789

    Here is what I have so far. Hope it can help

    Thanks so much

     Rose

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