Why does Family Search send out notifications to do temple ordinances when they are out of order
Why does Family Search send out notifications to do temple ordinances when they are out of order? Like I get a notification to do a sealing but Initiatory and endowment have not been completed. I know these ordinances are held in reserve until the ordinances are done in the proper order, but why are they sent out?
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Thank you for asking such a good question in our Community.
There are a number of reasons that ordinances are done or sent what appears to be out of order.
The Ordinances Ready feature allows sealings to be done before the individual ordinances. It is acceptable to perform these sealing-to-spouse ordinances without checking that the individual ordinances have been performed.
Family Tree sometimes shows that person’s ordinances were done out of sequence because the ordinances were done multiple times. The earliest occurrence of each ordinance may be on duplicate records in Family Tree.
Merging the duplicate records often allows the earliest date of each ordinance to show. The earliest dates often show the ordinances in the correct order.
We hope this has been helpful. If you want more information on this, go to the Help Center and search there for "out of order".
May you have enriching success with your family history.
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William
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
[ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]
Just in passing ...
Further to; and, in support of, what has already been proffered ...
Now ...
That Said ...
The, preference; and, recommendation, remains, to do the "Temple" Work in "Order".
But ...
That Said ...
NOTHING is PERFECT ...
Things, DO NOT always, go to, 'plan' (or, follow, the 'script') ...
There are EXCEPTIONS to EVERY "Rule" ...
And, "Sealing to Parents"; &, "Sealing to Spouse", can fall under that; which, can sometimes be, an EXCEPTION.
Please let me explain ...
This is an ongoing dilemma, for many Members of the Church.
The matter, has been canvased, on numerous occasions, in the various 'iterations' for the 'FamilySearch' Forums.
One does not really have to be too concerned ...
We have been advised, that regardless if "Ordinances" are done 'Out of Sequence', not to worry; as, those "Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' simply DO NOT take effect, UNTIL the prerequisite "Ordinances" are "Completed".
And, most importantly ...
"Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' DO NOT have to be done again; as, they are STILL "Valid".
Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch':
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
Which states, among other things:
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Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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And ...
Of course ...
Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?
Where it states, among other things:
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- The ordinances were inadvertently or intentionally performed out of order in error.
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Plus ...
Most IMPORTANTLY ...
In one of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Ordinances performed out of order
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order
Which states, among other things:
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It is preferable to have the ordinances done in sequence
[ Note: The Words ... It is preferable ]
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And ...
Again ...
In the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":
Correct order of temple ordinances
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances
It also states, among other things:
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- Which used to read:SSealing of a husband and wife and sealing of children to parents (if possible). Whenever possible, parents should be sealed to each other before the children are sealed to the parents.
[ Note: The Words ... Whenever possible ]
But, now reads:
- It is preferred that sealings be done after individual ordinances, but it is not required. Family Tree does not enforce the order of sealings for deceased persons. A deceased couple can be sealed before their individual ordinances are done. Likewise, a deceased child can be sealed to deceased parents before the parents are sealed and before the parents’ individual ordinances are done.
[ Note: The improvement ... ]
[ And, once again ... ]
Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.
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Now ...
All That Said ...
Here is a reference, specifically about "OrdinancesReay" ....
"Knowledge Article", in 'FamilySearch':
How do I find family names for the temple with Ordinances Ready?
It also states, among other things:
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Before you start
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Notes:
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- Ordinances Ready does not determine if pre-requisite ordinances have been completed when sealing-to-spouse ordinances are requested. Please ensure that baptism, initiatory and endowment have been completed for each individual before proceeding with a sealing ordinance.
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So ...
That Said ...
Really ...
The choice is yours ...
As, to whether or not, you proceed, with the "Ordinances", that you received through "OrdinancesReady".
And ...
Furthermore ...
Unfortunately ...
In this day and age, it appears that many Users/Patrons, consider that "OrdinancesReady" is the way to go; as, "OrdinancesReady" is such, a quick; and, easy, process.
We never had, "OrdinancesReady" up until a few Years ago.
"OrdinancesReady", is simply helpful/useful for those, that are 'caught in a bind'; when, they have a "Temple" visit scheduled (or, are notified of one, scheduled by, a Ward/Branch/Stake/District); but, unfortunately, do not have any "Temple" Cards, for their Ancestors, 'on-hand', available.
In fact, more fully ...
"OrdinancesReady" is ONLY, a quick; and, easy, process of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, when one (or, OTHER Family members) is (are) going to visit the "Temple", that day or the next, when one (or, OTHER Family members) DOES NOT have ANY "Temple" Cards, 'on-hand', available.
And ...
"OrdinancesReady" is certainly NO substitute, for doing one's (or, OTHER Family members) due diligence, well IN ADVANCE of visiting the "Temple" of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, for one's (or, OTHER Family members) Ancestors, to have 'on-hand', available, through one's (or, OTHER Family members) "Reservations" List; and/or, normal research.
I know that this might not give you comfort and address your concerns; but, I hope that this gives you some more perspective.
Brett
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