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  • CaptBob
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    January 30

    You might want to download & review this formative document explaining FamilySearch's "Our Tree" which features the goals of 'Sources, Collaboration & avoiding Duplication' in the FS universal tree.

    http://broadcast.lds.org/eLearning/fhd/Community/en/FamilySearch/FamilyTree/pdf/The_Case_for_Our_Tree_FamilySearch.pdf

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  • Brett .
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    January 30

    @americanswede

    FYI

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Just in passing ...

    You have obviously, "Edited" this post of yours; as, you could not "Delete" such.

    But ...

    That Said ...

    In doing so, you have left, a 'Comment' (ie. 'Response'), by another Participant (ie. User/Patron) 'out on a limb'.

    So ...

    That Said ...

    Just for some context ...

    Originally ...

    Please Make My Tree - My Tree!

    I don't like having 100's of people making changes to my family tree without my permission. This needs to be set up like on ancestry.com

    As such ...

    And ...

    As, you now may be aware ...

    Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...

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    Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT, understand, the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.

    Please let me explain ...

    We do not have our OWN "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.

    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    And, most importantly ...

    We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why ANY "Registered" User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'. 

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    Now ...

    That Said ...

    MANY; Many; many, of us, ... have been there ... done that ... still do ...

    Many of us have had 'wayward' "Changes" made to our "Ancestral" Lines ...

    And, we understand; where, you are coming from ...

    Technically, there is no way, to STOP, other Users/Patrons, from working along, the SAME 'Ancestral" Lines.

    Unfortunately, such CANNOT be prevented.

    Like it or not ...

    Please be aware, that technically, you DO NOT have a "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' ...

    As, basically, we are all related ...

    Your "Ancestral" Lines, are most likely, ALSO another User's/Patron's, "Ancestral" Lines, in fact, probably, that of quite a few other Users/Patrons.

    Hence ...

    "Collaboration", is a big part, of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is a "Collaborative" effort, on ALL our parts.

    We ALL make MISTAKES ...

    NONE of us are PERFECT ...

    NOT everyone (ie. User/Patron) is an "Experienced" Genealogist.

    Most User/Patron, are far from that.

    And, MANY Users/Patrons, are VERY "Inexperienced".

    We are ALL trying ...

    Everyone CAN help ... if they wish to participate ...

    The "System", DOES NOT require, Verification; or, Supporting Evidence; or, Proof, of "Details" ...

    [ Nor, should it ... ]

    That, is the responsibility, of us Users/Patrons ...

    The "System", is ONLY providing, the MEANS, to join, individuals/persons; and, families, together ...

    Everything, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is a CONTINUAL 'Work in Progress' ...

    Where, some things, are in a better state, than others ...

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is not for all ...

    It is "Very" SIMPLE ...

    IF, you find a mistake/error in your "Ancestral" Lines, caused by another User/Patron; THEN, just go ahead; and, address/fix such - no big deal.

    In fact, you have the options of either:

    (1) Contacting the User/Patron concerned, by "User Messaging" of 'FamilySearch', advising of the mistake/error (with the correct "Details); and, requesting, that they correct such; then, hopefully, waiting, for such to be actioned;

    or, take the initiative,

    (2) Making the "Changes" yourself, providing any supporting evidence (if not already attached/included); and, you can then, contact the User/Patron concerned, by "User Messaging" of 'FamilySearch', advising of the mistake/error; and, that you have corrected such. Or, of course, you can just wait for the User/Patron, to possibly contact you; and, then, discuss.

    The choice is yours ...

    Remember just be courteous in any "Messaging".

    You never know, it may be, a LONG LOST Relative; or, an EXTENDED Relative, you did not even know about.

    The PREFERENCE, is for "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', to be as CORRECT; as, POSSIBLE.

    [ But, as we know, NONTHING is PERFECT ... ]

    Furthermore ...

    FIRSTLY ...

    That is exactly why, many Users/Patrons, ALSO maintain their own PRIVATE "Database(s)" (ie. Copies) of their "Ancestral" Lines , on 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

    And ...

    SECONDLY ...

    All that one can really do, is 'Monitor', one's "Ancestral" Lines, for 'wayward' CHANGES, by OTHER Users/Patrons.

    Nothing more, nothing less ...

    As an aside ...

    IF, you were not already aware; THEN, ...

    In "Family Tree", of "FamilySearch' ...

    We have the ability to "Watch" (Oops, sorry, 'old school', "Follow"), up to a MAXIMUM of x4000 individuals/persons, at any given time.

    Basically ...

    It is a matter, of "Following", one's MOST important Ancestors.

    Just to keep on top, of any 'wayward' CHANGES.

    I check, the "Changes" to those that I "Follow", on a "Daily" Basis; so that, I can keep on top of things.

    More often that not, nothing needs to be done; but, at least, I have the opportunity, to be abreast of things; as, they happen/transpire/unfold.

    Just my thoughts.

    I know, that this certainly may not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.

    Brett

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