What Happens when a FamilySearch User passes on??
This question gets asked just about every few weeks
So some time ago I wrote up an answer to it and posted it on an external site where I can simply point people at - and I can update as needed.
There are some FS articles on this specific subject - but frankly I find them very limited in value and often don't answer the real underlying question the person has.
SOME HELPFUL LINKS
when I do post links to external sites it is NOT meant to distract or devalue the Community.
Rather simply to make the community a more valuable place to be as we each share tips and valuable knowledge with other community users.
working TOGETHER and sharing tips and experiences makes the Community a valued tool.
Its a great place to interchange tips and experiences.
I guess I am up a creek then, in that I deleted my FamilySearch account, which deleted my connection to my deceased parents. I guess I am still as a single entity now in the "Family Tree" in that deleted account. I guess my siblings are all single entities in the "Family Tree" showing as "Living" in my deleted account also, and will remain so, I guess, forever?
I have created myself and siblings all again in my new FamilySearch account. After reading your above links, I realize that pictures of myself and siblings in my deleted FamilySearch account will never be seen, in that no one will ever mark me, or siblings, as deceased in that deleted account. I guess it is a waste of time adding pictures of myself and siblings to the "FamilyTree."
Couldn't the program be designed that if someone added a death date to a CERTAIN NAME, (which had a certain birth date & place), all people showing that CERTAIN NAME and BIRTH DATE would automatically show deceased in the "Family Tree" so that they then could be MERGED into one person?, and thus saving all things in their "Memories?" (I realize it would have to be a full name and birth date and place).0
That's one reason I never suggest actually deleting an account.
also with your new account ; it should be nothing more than reconnecting yourself to your deceased parents,
There are very necessary and clear reasons that the only way an entry in a "private space" is marked as public is if the account owner marks it as deceased. any other scenario would result in blatant security flaws .
and there are clear and obvious legal reasons for not just automatically making items public that were once marked as private on a deceased persons account.
Just because the user is deceased - does not give FS the right to make their records that were marked as private , all of a sudden public even if they are dead.
as to items that you uploaded in your prior account. Did you put a title on them? were they marked as "private"?0
No, I have never added anything to FamilySearch that I felt was "private." - I see your points and have concluded that things added to "Living" in my deleted account will remain an entity in my "private space" in that account forever.0
if you didn't actually mark the items as "Private" its possible they could still actually be available
(unless all your records on that account were physically deleted --- Im looking into the answer for that question)
if you did add titles to each item - try doing a MEMORIES FIND with some key words and see if they come up.
One should NOT assume simply linking a memories item to a living person somehow makes the memories item uploaded "private" - --it does NOT explicitly do that. what is private is the profile record itself (along with corresponding facts and relationships) but items in Memories dont necessarily fall under that same set of rules.
if you do explicitly MARK a Memories item as private it is totally private.
if you dont -whether you link it to a deceased person or a living person -it is still technically public.
(though if it is linked to a living person ;-people may not be able to easily navigate to the item)0
also in re-reading your response
I see this comment
No, I have never added anything to FamilySearch that I felt was "private."
what I meant was there is actually a function in FS where you can mark a FS Memories item as "PRIVATE"
if you do that it is restricted to your account for viewing ; if you don't then technically it can be viewed by others even if it was linked to living people.
as an example
this is a photo of myself:
it is NOT marked as private
thus anyone (who knows how to get to it - ie. this url) can actually see it - it is NOT marked as private,
EVEN THOUGH my profile record with all my facts and relationships - because I am living - is totally out of of site to other people (in my private space) - even if they had a URL to this "private space" info etc. the access would fail based on the security applied.0
Thank you for your comments Dennis J Yance, it helps me understand a little bit better.
I know for a fact that all the things I have added to "Memories" is NOT "private," in that I would not even know where to look to mark something "private" in "Memories." - Private to me is a juicy family gossip, and I would never put anything like that on FamilySearch.0
I talked to a database admin - and they didnt think your Memories items would have been deleted unless there was a very explicit request to physically delete them (which is not the norm). simply that they are attached to an inactive or deactivated account.
which means your memories items are still probably out there though if they don't have a description may be hard to find . .0
"Private Memory" is simply the category of an item you want to keep private
It doesn't have to mean "juicy gossip"
Many people mark photos of living people as a "private item"
It can be something very regular - simply that the account owner doesn't want it to be shared with others over the Internet
if your memories items were not marked as private - you should still be able to find them
doing a MEMORIES FIND and looking for key words in the title that you included on the item (hopefully you did include a title) if you didn't it might be extremely hard to locate them.
so for example if I wanted to find a memories item related to my father I could type in his name on the MEMORIES FIND tool
click on this link as an example
YOU can do the same using your OWN key words that you would have used for items you uploaded.
(BUT the assumption is you DID enter a title for the item - if you did not - them all bets are off. )0
so to clarify - whether my father is alive or deceased or whether me (the uploader) am alive or deceased
that search for BRICE YANCEY will return the same set of photos etc. (based on matches it finds using the keywords of the title)
and based on the fact that such items are NOT marked as "private"
this is how security for memories items works
This is different than the security that is applied to my data record / profile (my name, event dates, and places, and my relationships with others - all that set of numerous facts and data that is linked to my person record in my "private space" which is always kept private as long as I am alive.0