How to sort by ordinances
I have 26,000 names in my Family Search, many are a various stages of being completed. Due to new temple rules, of limiting the number of names for each ordinance session it doesn't make sense to reserve a name (s) an attempt to complete all their ordinances. I'll never be able to complete all ordinances in my life time. That said, I would like to baptize and confirm as many as I can, and not hold in reserve the balance of ordinances.
The challenge I have in family Search is I'm not able to search, find, or sort names using "baptism" or any other ordinance name as a search & sort field. I will note that the search & sort would be looking for empty fields, meaning the ordinance has not been completed.
I's there any talk about adding this feature into Family Search? Is there a work around to solve my problem?
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When you say you have 26,000 names in your "FamilySearch" do you mean that you have 26,000 names in your personal My Reservations list, or in your Shared-With-Temple list? Or elsewhere?
If they are on either of those lists, open the Filter box on the right hand side. Then under Ordinances, unclick everything except baptism and confirmation. That will give you just those uncompleted ordinances. You can click off and print as many cards as you want to complete in one baptismal session. I assume that when you refer to a limit on number of names for each ordinance session that you are referring to that fact that only a limited number of people can attend a baptismal session and we can only reserve one 1 hour session. There is only so much you can get done in that time.
The other option is to use Ordinances Ready and have it get four names for baptisms for you. It will first check your My Reservations list and then your Shared with the Temple list. The limitation here is that it is designed to give names just for you, not for anyone else going with you.
If you move all your reservations to your Shared with the Temple list, other people can help you complete all those ordinances, they will never expire, they will still get completed if you expire, and there is no limit on the size of the list.
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Thank you for your speedy reply. I'll try to answer all your questions, not in any order...
When you say you have 26,000 names in your "FamilySearch" do you mean that you have 26,000 names in your personal My Reservations list, or in your Shared-With-Temple list? Or elsewhere?
Answer Elsewhere - In my family tree, I only select and reserve names as I need them. The downside to this is, the search engine only works inside reservations, and ignores everything in Family Tree
If they are on either of those lists, open the Filter box on the right hand side. Then under Ordinances, unclick everything except baptism and confirmation. That will give you just those uncompleted ordinances. You can click off and print as many cards as you want to complete in one baptismal session.
I assume that when you refer to a limit on number of names for each ordinance session that you are referring to that fact that only a limited number of people can attend a baptismal session and we can only reserve one 1 hour session. There is only so much you can get done in that time.
Answer Yes, currently 5 names per person
The other option is to use Ordinances Ready and have it get four names for baptisms for you. It will first check your My Reservations list and then your Shared with the Temple list. The limitation here is that it is designed to give names just for you, not for anyone else going with you.
Answer - Understood
If you move all your reservations to your Shared with the Temple list, other people can help you complete all those ordinances, they will never expire, they will still get completed if you expire, and there is no limit on the size of the list.
Answer - Again understood. But this means I have to open every record, including names where research is not completed. I've been told there is an app for cell phones called "Take A Name" that links to Family Search and allows you to search, and find names by ordinances, if that's true, why can't we do the same inside Family Search/tree?
Your thoughts,
Ed/vel
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I'm curious how you define your 26,000. Since there is just one database in Family Tree that we all work in together, there really are no boundaries in the tree. With that many people, you must hook into the many million person main tree at multiple areas or you probably have a good many duplicates that need to be merged in with their other copies.
But back to your question: The equivalent ordinance search in Family Tree is Ordinances Ready. I didn't run down the entire list of what it searches for as described in the help center articles about it: https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/where-does-ordinances-ready-get-names
The recently expanded list is (slightly edited for clarity by me):
- Family Names on your My Reservations list but not shared with a family group.
- Family names that you shared with a family group.
- Family names that have been shared with a family group that you belong to.
- Your family names that you shared with the temple.
- Names of people who are related to you that have been shared with the temple by someone else.
- "Green temples" from your tree. These are names that Ordinances Ready finds by scanning 10 generations of your ancestors and 5 generations of their descendants for incomplete ordinances.
- Names not related to you that have been shared with the temple.
If you have no reservations at all, Ordinances always pull names from 6 and 7 for you. This is what those other programs would also do.
The most efficient thing for you to do would be, however, to reserve ordinances as research is complete and immediately move them to your Shared With Temple list. Then you can just take however many you need at a time, both male and female cards as needed, pull them back to My Reservations and print them out. Since they are on the Shared with the Temple list, the other ordinances would gradually be completed by other relatives who will find them via option 6 when they use Ordinances Ready.
I should mention that both Ordinances Ready and external search routines look for just the minimum of qualifying information which for a baptism is a first or last name, birth year, and birth place. Which means that a lot of the names they will pull up for you would likely include "names where research is not completed."
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