Living persons data and Family Groups
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I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Short Answer: NO
Here is a "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch':
What are family groups?
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-family-groups
Where it states, among other things:
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Can group members share Family Tree private spaces?
No, at this time, private spaces are still visible only to the user who created them.
Can group members see or share private memories?
No, at this time, private memories are still visible only to the user who created them.
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I hope this helps/assists.
Brett
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Hi MJ.
Something to remember about Family Tree:
Family Tree protects the privacy of living people by restricting who can see their records. You can see the record of a living person only if you created the record. The system hides records you create of living people from everyone else, including the people themselves and other family members.
The rest of the Article is found here:
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Yet another:
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Thanks for the responses. I knew already about the privacy of living individuals but had HOPED those I invited to my family group could see living relatives' information, being part of the group. Maybe in the future!
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It was with great sadness that I learned that Family still maintained the ultra conservative interpretation of privacy laws concerning living persons in the Family Groups feature. I had hoped that the new Family groups feature would all me to share information about my living descendants with their invited cousins so as not to create numerous duplications, waste many peoples time, increase possibility of errors, discourage participation in in family research. and inhibit communication between family members.
I have spent 20 years in the Washington DC area supervising testing government software for compliance to a confusing array of rules and regulations. My understanding that with appropriate permission, private information may be shared. I hope in the near future, Family Search will allow for more access to information on living persons.
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Richard
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
[ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]
[ And, I have been a Staff Member, of Family History Centres", of the Church, for many Years ... ]
Just in passing ...
Regardless, of what you have proffered ...
Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT, understand, the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]
We do not have our OWN "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any "Registered" User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
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And ...
As to "Privacy" ...
More, of what, I have also previously proffered, on occasion ...
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We can ONLY 'see' "Deceased" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that one can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', that one created; as, they reside in one's "Private Spaces".
No other User/Patron, can 'see' ANY "Living" individuals/persons, that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces", of the User/Patron who created them.
We CANNOT even 'see', the ACTUAL Record, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc), if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them, with any other "Living" individual/person, residing in the "Private Spaces", of another User//Patron.
There is CURRENTLY, no mechanism, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons, in their own "Private Spaces", with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the WORLD - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is used in many, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the WORLD; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the WORLD.
Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
Another factor, is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed', into the Programme, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
'Yes', these "Living" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
Here are some "Knowledge Articles", in 'FamilySearch', in regard to "Private Spaces"; and, "Living" individuals/persons:
Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
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Now ...
That Said ...
'FamilySearch', has been 'grappling', with the SHARING, of "Living" individuals/persons, between "Living" Users/Patrons; and, 'working' on this, for, MANY; Many; many, Years.
There DOES appear to be some progress ...
Especially, with the recent implementation, of the NEW "Family Groups".
Currently, the 'premise' of "Family Groups" is:
PRIMARILY: for the "Sharing" of "Temple" Work, for Users/Patrons who are Member of the Church; and,
SECONDARY: a form of "Group" 'Messaging' Tool, for ALL User/Patrons
But, there has been 'Talk', in this Forum, that has suggested, that "Family Groups" MAY later, include a 'component', to enable the "Sharing", of the "Living" individuals/persons, in our "Private Spaces", between members of the particular 'Group'; as, a "Family Group" is, in fact, a "Closed" PRIVATE 'Group', with somewhat of a 'Modicum', of "Privacy".
We can but live in hope ...
Things are NOT; as, SIMPLE; and, EASY; as, most people think/believe ...
Just my thoughts.
I know, that this may not help/assist; but, I hope, that this provides you, with some additional, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
ps: Please be, aware; and, advised, that ...
▬ 'FamilySearch', was created by the Church.
▬ 'FamilySearch', is FREE to ALL.
▬ 'FamilySearch', is NOT a "Commercial" (eg. Fee Pay/Subscription) Website.
And ...
Most importantly ...
There are many competing priorities in "Family Tree" (and, the OTHER Parts), of 'FamilySearch'; and, there are "Very" LIMITED Resources (eg. Funds) available to 'FamilySearch'.
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