sealing to unendowed parents.

RichardPetersen1

Ordinance Ready gives me some names for sealing to parents when the parents have not been endowed and sealed to each other. It is permissable to do these child to parent sealings when the work for the parents is incomplete? If the answer to this is no; why does the system allow these to be printed and taken to the temple? Thank you.

Brett .

@RichardPetersen1

Richard

I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

[ And, I happen to be a member of the Church ... ]

This is an ongoing dilemma, for many Members of the Church.

The matter, has been canvased, on numerous occasions, in the various 'iterations' for the 'FamilySearch' Forums.

One does not really have to be too concerned ...

We have been advised, that regardless if "Ordinances" are done 'Out of Sequence', not to worry; as, those "Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' simply DO NOT take effect, UNTIL the prerequisite "Ordinances" are "Completed".

And, most importantly ...

"Ordinances" that are done 'Out of Sequence' DO NOT have to be done again; as, they are STILL "Valid".

Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch':

Ordinances performed out of order

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order

Which states, among other things:

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Vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, but they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.

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And ...

Correct order of temple ordinances

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances

Which states, among other things:

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Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.

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And ...

Of course ...

Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/why-are-the-temple-ordinance-dates-out-of-order-in-family-tree

Where it states, among other things:

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• The ordinances were inadvertently or intentionally performed out of order in error.

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Plus ...

Most IMPORTANTLY ...

In one of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":

Ordinances performed out of order

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/ordinances-performed-out-of-order

Which states, among other things:

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It is preferable to have the ordinances done in sequence

[ Note: The Words ... It is preferable ]

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And ...

In the other of the aforementioned "Knowledge Article":

Correct order of temple ordinances

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/correct-order-of-temple-ordinances

It also states, among other things:

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• Sealing of a husband and wife and sealing of children to parents (if possible). Whenever possible, parents should be sealed to each other before the children are sealed to the parents.

[ Note: The Words ... Whenever possible ]

[ And, once again ... ]

Although vicarious ordinances performed out of sequence are valid, they become effective only after the prerequisite ordinances are completed.

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Now ...

All That Said ...

Here is a reference, specifically about "OrdinancesReay", regarding "Sealing to Spouse".

"Knowledge Article", in 'FamilySearch':

How do I find family names for the temple with Ordinances Ready?

https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-find-family-names-for-the-temple-with-ordinances-ready

It also states, among other things:

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Before you start

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Notes:

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• Ordinances Ready does not determine if pre-requisite ordinances have been completed when sealing-to-spouse ordinances are requested. Please ensure that baptism, initiatory and endowment have been completed for each individual before proceeding with a sealing ordinance.

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So ...

That Said ...

Really ...

The choice is yours ...

As, to whether or not, you proceed, with the "Ordinances", that you received through "OrdinancesReady".

And ...

Most importantly ...

Please be aware that the "OrdinancesReady" feature/function/facility is ONLY, really, for a quick; and, easy, process of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, when one is going to visit the "Temple", that day or the next, when one DOES NOT have ANY "Temple" Cards, 'on-hand', available.

The "OrdinancesReady" feature/function/facility is certainly NO substitute, for doing one's due diligence, well IN ADVANCE of visiting the "Temple" of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, for one's Ancestors, to have 'on-hand', available.

Now ...

That Said ...

Please be aware ...

Remember, that the "Temple" Work, of "Sealing to Parents", relates to the Child; and, NOT, the to Parents.

So ...

That Said ...

Regardless, of the status, of "Temple" Work, of the Parents, the "Sealing to Parents", for a Child, CAN be undertaken.

I know that this might not give you comfort and address your concerns; but, I hope that this gives you some additional, insight; and, perspective.

Brett

RichardPetersen1

Thank you Brett. Your answer was complete and helpful.

Brett .

@RichardPetersen1

Richard

Sorry ...

Here is another, RECENT, "Knowledge Article", that I had become aware of; but, forgot to include in my post.

Article 'Dated': 6 October 2021

Sealing to parents without the parents' ordinance work being done

https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/sealing-to-parents-without-the-parents-ordinance-work-being-done

Which states, among other things:

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A child-to-parents sealing can be performed even if the parents’ individual work and sealing to each other have not been completed.

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And, includes, Validity; when Effective; and, about the Work for the Parents.

Brett