I can't share names now that there is a limit!
So I have 300 names in my list. I do all the research and have many family members helping me with them every week going to the temple. I Share many names. I already have over 1000 shared but today when I try to share new person that I have researched and attached many sources to who is ready for temple work to be done---I can't share. So if you have 300 in your list YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHARE NAMES ANYMORE. To bad someone didn't come up with that option somewhere before creating new features that always come up. I really don't think that the software people at FS every use the software themselves like real people do.
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Hi Dee.
I am not sure why you are not able to share names. I had 350 names on my list. I shared 68 with the temple and remainder with my family group. So the process is working for me. That said, that does not actually help you with your problem at the current moment.
I would like to share a couple of thoughts that may be helpful. At times I have been frustrated and wanted to throw something, or to quote an old, old Warner Brothers cartoon, "I am so mad I want to smash a grape" when changes come along in FamilySearch. However, I have learned that if I am patient, things do work out and very often for the better. I must be completely honest and share that there are some changes that have come along over the years that to this day I do not like. But once I found out the reason for the changes, I thought, wow, that really does make sense. I have watched the video presentations for RootsTech over the years and that is where I learned to calm down about the changes.
I just want to give you a huge pat on the back for making the effort to share the names with the temple inventory. If it were possible I would also throw you a huge bouquet of roses and say give it time. Things will work out.
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I am not trying to share people from my list. Every single one of them are in progress, but when I find new people on family search and I'm working on them, I cannot share them because it makes you reserve them first before you share them and of course I can't reserve them because I have to many. I spend about 4 hours each day researching so I have lots to share but can't do it anymore. I will just leave them out in family search and hopefully people will find them to reserve. I don't have any problem with them setting a limit. Before temple's closed we were getting 1000 people done per year and so the people in my list will get done and then I can share more but it's just frustrating to not be able to share new people now. Where I live we can only get an endowment appt every other month because of Covid restrictions, so I have to send all my names to family and they are working on them to help us.
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FYI
That statement of yours that:
"... If you create a family group, and add shared ordinances from you list of 300, You will then be able to reserve more to your personal list. ..."
Appears to contrary to information published by 'FamilySearch'
'FamilySearch' "Blog"
Dated: 15 November 2021
Answers to Questions | Personal Temple Reservation Lists, New Limit
https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/personal-temple-reservation-lists-faq
Where it states, among other things:
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Does sharing names with a family group count toward my limit?
When you share a family name with a family group, the reservation does count toward your limit, and normal expiration dates will apply after temples fully reopen at phase 4.
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So ...
That Said ...
I would humbly suggest, that "Sharing" (ie. "Reservations") with a "Family Group" will NOT "Reduced" the NUMBER of "Reservations" on one's "Reservations" List - ie. thereby NOT "Reducing" the x300 LIMIT.
Basically, what you suggest will NOT work.
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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Hello @Dee Smith 111
Can I offer these general thoughts for you, anyone else who is concerned about the new policy, to consider....
The Limit on the number of Ordinance Reservations is a Temple Policy enacted by the Temple Department under the direction of the direction of the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency. It is not a FamilySearch policy implemented to hinder people.
Having a large reservation list means that relatives who are looking to do Temple work may find it difficult to find a name because their relatives ordinances are all reserved. Last week I helped a newly baptised member get started in FamilySearch. We successfully connected his tree so he has a multi-generation connected tree. We were only able to find 2 individuals who needed baptism and confirmation ordinances - and we searched children, grandchildren etc of his ancestors. Ordinance Ready found 2 more which had been shared to the Temple. All of this new member's other relatives ordinances had been completed or were reserved by people this new member did not know.
I used to have a large reservation list. Now I find people, sometimes reserve the ordinance and share immediately with the temple. Can you get the number of ordinances you have reserved under the 300 limit? Then each time you reserve you can immediately share with the temple.
Another option is to use the Following feature to keep track of people. There is a limit of 4000 for the Following List. This article explains .... https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-use-the-following-list-to-track-ancestors-who-need-temple-ordinances
I also came to this conclusion. It is not necessary for me to reserve the ordinances of all the individuals I find. I can do the research. I can add the information to FamilySearch and then it is there for any relative who wants to reserve the ordinances. Let them have the joy of finding a relative and reserving the ordinances. I figure the engineers could write a program and find all the individuals who qualify for ordinances whose ordinances are not reserved - so I don't need to worry that an individual would be lost in the tree and ordinances would not be completed.
I realise @Dee Smith 111 that you don't have a problem with the limit, but for others who do ....Ultimately if you feel strongly about the matter, can I suggest that you could speak to your local priesthood leaders and explain your concerns with them. They can pass your concerns up the chain.
My kind regards
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I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
[ But, with some experience; and, extensive "Ancestral" Lines, in 'Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ... ]
As an aside ...
I always like, to "Reserve", the "Temple' Work, for individuals/persons, for whom I am working on/researching; so that, NO (Other) User/Patron, can "Reserve", the "Temple' Work; BEFORE, the bulk/main part of that work/research, is done.
So MANY times in the past, I have had (Other) Users/Patrons come along; and, literally, 'snatch', the "Temple" Work; BEFORE, the bulk/main part of that work/research, is done; where, the "Temple" Work, was done INCORRECTLY (ie. Especially, regarding both, Parents; and, Spouses).
What made matters even WORSE, is that I had "Notes" EVERYWHERE against the individual/person; including, in the "Life Sketch", to the effect, ... Please NOT to do the "Temple" Work; as, the individual/person was STILL very much a 'Work in Progress'; and, where, I would "Release", the "Temple" Work, from "Reservation", once the bulk/main part of that work/research, is done ...; but, unfortunately, to NO avail.
It is so, SADDENING; DISTRESSING; and, DISAPPOINTING (to put such 'mildly'), when one is working on, IMMEDIATE Family; and, DIRECT Line Ancestors, for some time, due to a particular problem/issue/matter that you are trying to "Resolve".
Even more DISHEARTENING, when the (Other) User(s)/Patron(s), CLAIM to have NOT, 'seen'; or, 'Noticed' the NOTES - 'Everywhere" ... even though ... 'Blind Freddie', would have noticed ...
As such ...
This NEW Limit on the "Reservations" List is just another disappointing ... "Road Block" ...
And ...
PLEASE; Please, please ...
DO NOT waste your time (or, mine), suggesting the use of ANY of the "Third Party" Applications, that are "Certified" to work with, "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...
I DO NOT; and, I will NOT, use such ...
[ I have in the past ... Years ago ... BUT, NO more ...
As, my "Ancestral" Lines are far to EXTENSIVE ...
I neither have, the 'Time'; nor, the inclination ...
I ONLY work, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...
[ Despite the 'Drawbacks'; and, the NEED to "Follow" individuals/person ... ]
Just another perspective, of the 'Downside', of the NEW Limit, on the "Reservations" List
Brett
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G'day @Brett .
I agree with your sentiments about ordinances for our precious, near and dear. That has also happened to me and it is very disappointing. So I too, reserve the ordinances immediately for those special ones whom I am working on.
I just wanted to point out that if a guest uses Ordinance Ready, Ordinance Ready will give them the name of an individual in their tree whose ordinances are available. And that individual could be a person whom you added. The guest doesn't look at the record to see the notes, life sketch etc that you have added.
So yes, for those special ones, or ones that are being worked on... I agree with you, reserving is the way to go, then release or share them when the time is right.
All the best.
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G'Day
PLEASE; Please; please ... DO NOT take 'umbrage' ...
My 'Comment', was in NO way, directed at your 'Comment' ...
My 'Comment', has been 'stewing' for a while, since the x300 LIMIT of "Reservation", has been applied/enforced ('hearing' of ALL the concerns); and, hence, ALL the 'side' problems/issues, that get 'caught' in the 'cross-fire', when 'FamilySearch' (and, the Church) is trying to "Resolve" ONE particular problem/issue, in this case, the Users/Patrons, with way to extensive "Reservations" List (ie. in the THOUSANDS); basically "Hoarding" the "Temple"Work, at the expense and detriment of OTHER situations/circumstances.
In my particular case, I would really LOVE to have, a particular feature/facility/function, to be able to place the "Temple" Work, on "Hold", for the SHORT TERM, foreseeable, future, until one is able to "Resolve" matters of concern; being, worked on/investigated.
And ...
As an aside ...
I always proffer to Users/Patrons that ...
Please be aware that the "OrdinancesReady" feature/function/facility is ONLY, really, for a quick; and, easy, process of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, when one is going to visit the "Temple", that day or the next, when one DOES NOT have ANY "Temple" Cards, 'on-hand', available.
The "OrdinancesReady" feature/function/facility is certainly NO substitute, for doing one's due diligence, well IN ADVANCE of visiting the "Temple" of, FINDING; and, PRINTING, the "Temple" Cards, for one's Ancestors, to have 'on-hand'
Again ...
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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