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Why am I not able to do the temple work for her?

MorisonJamesEarl1
MorisonJamesEarl1 ✭
November 7, 2021 edited November 8, 2021 in Temple

Mary Alice Bruner

18 January 1864 – 7 April 1906

 • 9732-NN3

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  • Norm Jones
    Norm Jones mod
    November 8, 2021

    All of her ordinances have been completed:

    Mary Alice Bruner.png


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  • Norm Jones
    Norm Jones mod
    November 8, 2021

    One of the issues with not displaying her ordinances correctly arises from her spouse's record. George Kirkpatrick Worth is currently shown twice: once connected to two parents and once connected to just his mother. If you resolve this situation it will help with displaying ordinances correctly.

    George Kirkpatrick Worth.png


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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 8, 2021

    @MorisonJamesEarl1

    James

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    [ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]

    As I am also related to both, Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ); and, George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ); and, as such, I have a somewhat, passing interest, in the matter; as, a whole ...

    Hence, why I have 'Commented' here ...

    You have good grounds, for ASKING such a 'Question', for not being able to do the "Temple" Work, for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ).

    And, I was concerned about he matter ...

    Now ...

    That Said ...

    As an aside ...

    Attention: @Norm Jones

    Norm

    I am sorry to interject here, in this matter ...

    But ...

    That Said ...

    Regarding, Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) ...

    FYI

    As you may (or, may not) be aware, that "Image", of the "Temple" Work, that has been "Completed", for her, that you have provided, is NOT what the 'lowly' User/Patron 'sees'.

    All we 'see' for ALL her "Temple" Work is:

    • This person's ordinance status is not available. Please contact FamilySearch Support if you are a relative and need more information.
    image.png

    That "Image", of the "Temple" Work, that has been "Completed", for her, that you have provided, obviously come from a "System", that ONLY the likes 'FamilySearch' "Support" (Personnel), or above, have access to.

    And ...

    In any case ...

    As an aside ...

    The MAJORITY of "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) should NOT be dependent upon the "Parental" situation/circumstance, of her LONG "Deceased" Spouse / Husband, George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ); except, maybe in regard to "Sealing to Spouse".

    Plus ...

    On another aspect ...

    The situation/circumstance regarding George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ), having TWO (x2) "Sets" of Parents, MAY certainly NOT need resolving; as, it appears such IS quite legitimate and acceptable - especially; as, the one where he HAS a Father, that Father is designated as his "Step" Father - again, quite legitimate and acceptable.

    As such ...

    Considering the aforementioned ...

    This actual post, pertaining to the matter of the "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) NEEDS to be "Moved", from this 'Category' of "General Questions", to the 'Category' of "Temple"; so that, HOPEFULLY, a "Moderator" [ ie. 'FamilySearch' "Support" (Personnel) ], here in this Forum, will communicate with you through a "Private" 'Message'; and, take this matter, into the Workings of 'FamilySearch' "Support", to better help/assist, 'James'.

    Again, I am sorry to interject here, in this matter; but, I was concerned that the matter, appeared to be, not heading, in the right direction.

    Just my thoughts.

    Brett

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  • Norm Jones
    Norm Jones mod
    November 8, 2021 edited November 8, 2021

    @Brett .

    Firstly, I know that @MorisonJamesEarl1 could not see the ordinances which were hidden, which was why I showed that the ordinances have been completed.

    Secondly, a person should not be linked to both two parents, and a single parent, simultaneously. As you noted, the first link, showing the child as a step-child of the father, is the correct way of showing the relationship. The link to just the mother needs to be resolved, because the system will try and do two sealings-to-parents.

    Thirdly, I have now resolved the other issue which was preventing the ordinances from showing.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 8, 2021

    @Norm Jones

    Norm

    I am again sorry ...

    But ...

    That Said ...

    You do not seem to be aware of the various possibilities of the "System".

    You are totally incorrect - hence my concern, in the first place.

    An individual/person CAN certainly have and be linked to MORE than ONE "Set" of "Parents".

    There are, MANY; Many; many, instances of such, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.

    I have NOT only 'seen' such; but, I have also created such.

    There is NOTHING wrong with such a situation/circumstance.

    And, when ONE Patents (Generally, the Father) is NOT KNOWN / UNKNOWN (ie. just NOT "Listed" on a, "Christening" Record; and/or, "Birth Registration"), then the way that situation/circumstance for George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ), has been orgainised, is EXACTLY the way such SHOULD be; and, is 100% correct.

    That situation/circumstance, for the way, that George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ), has been orgainised, is EXACTLY the way such SHOULD be; and, should NOT be "Changed"; as, such DOES NOT require resolution, in regard to the matter of the "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) .

    As I stated previously ...

    The MAJORITY of "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) should NOT be dependent upon the "Parental" situation/circumstance, of her LONG "Deceased" Spouse / Husband, George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ); except, maybe in regard to "Sealing to Spouse".

    And, even in the case of that "Sealing to Spouse" ...

    REALLY, even that "Sealing to Spouse" should NOT be dependent upon the "Parental" situation/circumstance, of her LONG "Deceased" Spouse / Husband, George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ).

    ALL the "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) SHOULD be made viewable for ALL Users/Patrons, who are Member of the Church, to 'see', "As Is" (ie. in that "Image", that you provided).

    Whereas ...

    As to ...

    The "Temple" Work for George Kirkpatrick WORTH ( KZGM-NHM ), that MAY certainly NEED to be FULLY investigated, by "Data Administration", of 'FamilySearch'; as, there are THREE (x3) "Sealing to Parents"; where,

    (1) one is subject to a that "Blue Box" ( ie. This sealing-to-parents ordinance is valid).

    .... Possible due to a 'wayward' "Merge"/"Combine" in either,

    .... (a) "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; or, even

    .... (b) "New.FamilySearch"

    .... (c) Even from the "International Genealogical Index" (IGI); or, BEFORE that, Days

    (2) one is "Completed"

    (3) the situation/circumstance where there is ONLY one Parent listed, is quite correct and acceptable.

    Again, I am sorry ...

    I had to interject in this post; as, it was certainly heading in the wrong direction.

    Hopefully, the "Temple" Work for Mary Alice BRUNER ( 9732-NN3 ) CAN easily be made viewable for ALL Users/Patrons, who are Member of the Church, to 'see', "As Is"; as, it should be.

    Just my thoughts.

    Brett

    ps: As I am "Related" ...

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  • Norm Jones
    Norm Jones mod
    November 8, 2021

    @Brett .

    If you look in FamilySearch you will see that the ordinances for Mary Alice Bruner are now visible. As I said in my previous post, I have fixed the issue which was stopping them from showing.

    If you are just going to repeatedly assert that I am "totally incorrect" then we can't have a sensible conversation. What is the point in having a person linked as a child to two parents and one parent, simultaneously, as is this case?

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