Lock information
I have had someone deleting and changing years of research I had documents and been present in all my stuff. as of today I am dead? is there a way we can lock what we know is true?
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Sharon
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Please be aware, that technically, you DO NOT have a "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...
Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]
You are not alone ...
MANY; Many; many, of us, ... have been there ... done that ... still do ...
Many of us have had 'wayward' "Changes" made to our "Ancestral" Lines ...
It is often a matter of the MOST "Persistent" ...
Never give in ... Never give up ...
Hopefully, the other User/Patron will eventually 'tire'; and, give up ...
Unfortunately, there are NO winners ...
But ...
That Said ...
Technically, there is no way to STOP another User/Patron working along the SAME 'Ancestral" Lines.
Unfortunately, such CANNOT be prevented.
As, basically, we are all related.
Your "Ancestral" Lines, are most likely ALSO another User's/Patron's "Ancestral" Lines, in fact, probably, that of quite a few other Users/Patrons.
Now ...
That Said ...
Basically, we DO NOT have, a "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', than is common misconception.
And, OTHER Users/Patrons, DO NOT need/require, our (ie. one's) "Permission", to "Change" the information/details of "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
I hope that this gives you some, insight; and, perspective.
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In other words ... "Collaboration" ...
Of course ... often ... easier said, than done ...
[ Sometimes, no matter how hard one tries, "Collaboration", does not work ... such is life ... ]
Plus ...
We ALL make MISTAKES ...
NONE of US are PREFECT ...
None of us want to have our "Ancestral" Lines 'messed up'; but, unfortunately, it happens.
FIRSTLY ...
That is exactly why, many Users/Patrons, ALSO maintain their own PRIVATE "Database(s)" (ie. Copies) of their "Ancestral" Lines , on 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
And ...
SECONDLY ...
Unfortunately, some people like to ... 'look at life through rose coloured glasses'.
Some people, 'see' ONLY what they WANT to 'see', regardless of ALL the supporting evidence (ie. proof) that is provided/supplied/attached.
Honestly, we can ALL be 'one-eyed' like that ... at times ...
Truly ...
It is a matter of "Watching" (oops, sorry, 'old school', "Following") our MOST important Ancestors.
Just to keep on top of any 'wayward' changes.
One can "Follow", up to a Maximum of x4000 individuals/persons, at any given time.
'FamilySearch', sends one, a 'Weekly' NOTIFICATION, of ANY "Changes", that are made to those individuals/persons one "Follows".
Better still, I DO NOT 'Wait' for that 'Weekly' NOTIFICATION ...
I check, the "Changes", to those that I "Follow", on a "Daily" Basis; so that, I can keep on top of things.
More often that not, nothing needs to be done; but, at least, I have the opportunity, to be abreast of things; almost as, they happen/transpire/unfold.
Such is not the best; but, certainly better than nothing ...
FINALLY ...
MANY; Many; many, Users/Patrons, just do not 'play well', in the "Shared" SINGLE "One" World "Tree" concept.
MANY; Many; many, Users/Patrons, just want THEIR "Record" (ie. the "Details"/"Relationship" that they add), to appear, in THEIR "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', despite the fact, that they DO NOT have a "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; as, they ONLY have have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected.
Such is one of the DRAWBACKS of participating in a "Shared" SINGLE "One" World "Tree" concept.
That being:
▬ You are NOT in "Control"; and,
▬ You have NO "Control"; and,
▬ You are at the mercy of others ... just like others at your mercy.
"Collaboration" is great in "Theory"; but, as we all well know, "Collaboration" is NOT always so great in "Practice".
Certainly not ideal ...
As I previous suggested ...
We ALL make MISTAKES ...
NONE of us are PERFECT ...
Unfortunately, some People ...'look at life, through rose coloured glasses' ...
▬ They ONLY 'see', what THEY want to 'see' ...
▬ IF, they DO NOT like, what THEY 'see' ... they simply ... 'Dismiss' it ...
.... [ ie. WHATEVER, "Sources" (ie. Records); or, Other "Details", are provided as "Support"/Proof"/"Evidence" ]
Such is life ...
You CANNOT 'Whitewash' HISTORY, it is what is was ...
[ But, some People, try very hard ... ]
REMEMBER:
It is often a matter, of SURVIVAL, of the MOST "Persistent" ...
As such ...
Although, many of us understand ...
'FamilySearch' CANNOT, go around, "Locking" COUNTLESS individuals/persons, in 'Family Tee", of 'FamilySearch'; regardless, if they are very much well "Sourced" and "Documented", doing such would defeat the purpose of the "Open Edit" Platform.
Some individuals/persons, in 'Family Tee", of 'FamilySearch, can be; and, are actually, "Locked"; but, those are very limited; and, generally of some significance.
I know that this does not help; but, I hope that this gives you some, insight; and, perspective.
Just my thoughts.
Good Luck.
Brett
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Brett, Bravo, but I didn't want to hear that-haha. How can anyone in their right mind change information on your father or grandparent or Aunt all the next generation and all INCORRECT info. I fix it it, then sign on and guess what, as you say the persistent win out. You can imagine how frustrating it is to me when I, with a disabling illness and can only sign on now and again and will spend my time making corrections, and corrections again. Should I say bag it and carry on trying to find the missing great grandfather that I have searched for years or spend my time constantly making corrections? My husband advises me to spend my time researching bc someone is always going to come along and and put misinformation on my family member. (it boils my blood when they do it to my father or grandparent).
I understand what your saying that it is a matter of survival. I have about as much energy as a gnat so I greatly dislike frogging around. Then when you see their relationship well...... HELLO, in one case there was no relationship, just some girls having a sleepover who decided to fiddle around in FamilySearch. That's when my head popped.
Oh good grief I am on my soapbox and venting. I loved your response. Any additional advice for yours truly would be greatly appreciated. Please enlighten. Peace. Dawn Hill
P.S. It's not only corrections, half my tree is missing. You can understand my frustration when I signed on to ancestry also and ALL my tree except 2 names was gone. I'm about ready to print out forms, get out my Bic pen, and do it the old-fashioned way. :) :)
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Dawn
I have been, a "Family History Consultant" (amongst other things), in the Church for almost x40 Years; and, been a Staff Member of various "Family History Centres" of the Church, for almost x30 Years, believe me, when I say ... I understand.
Hopefully, it may be just one or two individuals/persons (or. "Couple" Relationships), that need to be addressed/fixed (ie. "Corrected") to "Restore" things back on track/in order.
I will send you a ("Private") 'Message' though this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, to touch base with you.
Just look out, at that "Envelope" Icon, towards the TOP 'Right-Hand-Corner', of his Forum, when you 'see' an "Number" in 'Red", that indicates, that you have an "Unread" 'Message', someone has sent you
Lets 'see', if I can help/assist, somewhat.
Brett
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