110 year rule
I thought I would be allowed to reserve for temple work anyone over 110 years old.
Another consultant told me no..only if I am related to them. so
If I am not related to my husband's family members who are over 110 years old, and my husband is recently deceased, does that mean I cannot do the temple work for those ancestors, although they have been reserved for some time?
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I read all of the help sections before writing to you.. I still don't have an answer to my question.
Am I allowed to do my husbands ancestors or not?
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Did you open the link above from Amy? If not, here is what it says:
Temple ordinances are sacred and should be treated with respect. Please reserve ordinances for individuals only if you are related to them.
A letter from the First Presidency dated February 29, 2012, states, "Our pre-eminent obligation is to seek out and identify our own ancestors. Those whose names are submitted for proxy temple ordinances should be related to the submitter."
You are responsible to submit names of the individuals below:
- Immediate family members (spouse, children, siblings, and parents).
- Direct-line ancestors (parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on, and their families).
You can also submit the names of the individuals below:
- Biological, adoptive, and foster family lines connected to your family.
- Collateral family lines (uncles, aunts, cousins, and their families).
- Descendants of your ancestors.
- Your own descendants.
- Possible ancestors, meaning individuals who have a probable family relationship that cannot be verified because the records are inadequate, such as those who have the same last name and resided in the same area as your known ancestors.
Related policies
Temple ordinances for unrelated people
Temple ordinances for deceased people born in the last 110 years (110-year policy)
Can I do temple ordinances for my aunts, uncles, and cousins?
Can I do ordinances for people born before A.D. 1500?
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I believe it is nonsense to say that a person is not related to a spouses family. I believe it also indicates that a husband or wife is not related to their spouse.
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You might think of it as a drop of blood. Granted , you and your spouse don't share that blood, except thought the marriage vows. But you are not married to your in-laws, and unless they turn out to be your 42nd, cousin, ( or some such) relationship, then it only a kindness to offer their own kin the opportunity to provide those Sacred Blessings to their family line.
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Did the two of you have children? Help your children out with their research and help them out with the temple work they need to get done. After all, unfortunately, one of these days they will be on their own to carry on this work. Better teach them now what they need to be doing. If you did not have children, then I would have a discussion about this with your temple president.
It is the policy that we are only to reserve and do temple work for people with whom we share a common direct ancestor and their spouses. This is the definition of a collateral line and descendants of ancestors. And the most recent direction we have been given is that we are to complete all ordinances for those spouses, including sealing the spouses to their parents even though we are not to any ordinances for the spouses' parents.
But there is a difference between not doing the temple work of our 2nd cousin's husband's ancestors and doing the work for our spouse's ancestors. So, again, I would ask your temple president and follow his advice.
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@lanamarierankin1 After all of this discussion, you may want to see if you are related to the ancestors of your deceased husband. Using your husband's parents or grandparents as a starting points, go to their detail pages and click on the View My Relationship in the upper right hand corner of the detail page right above Research Help. You may be related.
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Thank you for all of your suggestions. Here is what I’m thinking. Even though I did all the research, I’m not allowed to reserve or perform any ordinances of my deceased husband s ancestors unless I happened to also be related to them. But my children or grand children may reserve and preform the ordinances. Also my husbands sister could or her children could reserve and preform the ordinances. Am I right in that way of thinking?
so what if I just shared the names I have reserved with the temple. Can anyone then pick the names and do the work?
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@lanamarierankin1 IMO the best course of action would be to Unreserve and notify your children, grandchildren and your husband's sister or her children of your pending action and let them Reserve them. This avoids any issue of whether the reservation falls within the current policies.
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So Chase, I could do that. But why does my husband's ancestors come up on Ordinance Ready if I'm not allowed to do them? And if I choose to turn them over to "Share with the Temple" what are the chances that they will come up in Ordinance Ready again?
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Right now, if you have the the names reserved and you run Ordinances Ready, you are just getting the names you already have reserved. Ordinances Ready looks for names in these areas:
- Your own reservation list.
- Names you have shared to the temple list.
- Names others have shared to the temple list - for whom you are related.
- Names within the Tree, not yet reserved - for whom you are related.
- Names shared to the temple list - for whom you do not share a relationship.
Once you release these names, they will not come up in Ordinances Ready unless you are related to them.
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I’ve read these before except for number 5. I don’t understand that one
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#5 is the equivalent of going to the temple without any ordinance cards and being given one there. It's just that you print the card instead of the temple.
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I understand that now. So it doesn’t matter who the proxy is. But it does matter who reserved the ordinances because that has to be a bloodline relative. And if I shared my husbands reserved cards with the temple they would only show up on some ones Ordinances Ready page if they are related to him which would be my children grandchildren or his nieces or their children. . Do I have that right?
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Since you are not related to your husband's relatives, you should not reserve their ordinances. If you have them reserved, you should release them. Ordinances Ready will find them in the Tree for those people who are related to them.
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I am the only one doing research on my husbands side, but fortunately my kids, grandkids and his cousins are on board to help complete the ordinances. But I have over 400 reserved, and at least half of them are his. I'm not going to take the time to unreserve them, or send them to share with the temple, because they would just come right back to my family most likely. I'll just spread the cards out to those family members who will get the work done quickly. And good news, I'm a 13th cousin to my husband anyway...so I'll check "find my relationship" with his ancestors now to see how many I am actually related to...most I hope. Thanks for everyone's ideas and input.
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I have learned over the years, by following the inspired guidelines set forth in doing this great work, blessings do flow abundantly. Our efforts will be counted even if others reserve names and perform those vital ordinances.
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FamilySearch has fairly new feature called Family Groups. You can create a family group and invite other family members to join the group. In the group you can share names that you have reserved for temple work. You might consider starting a family group with your husbands relatives and your children so that you can share the ordinances with them in that manner.
At the bottom of each of these articles there are links to other articles that may be of help if you do decide to start a family group.
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