I have two parents, James & Rebecca Harvey in Manchester, Lancashire England who had children born i

Marjorie Butler

I thought it odd that so many years passed and that would have put the mother Rebecca at around 46 having her. Then I ran across a birth record for Sarah Ann Harvey listing James Harvey as her father and just a first name of Elizebeth for her mom. County and parish's line up. Elizabeth would have been about 17 at the time of birth.

Question: Was the grandfather listed as the father on Christening records if the child was illegitimate?

I am thinking that this Sarah Ann Harvey was Elizabeth's illegitimate child and not the biological child of the father listed on CHristening record. Thank you for your experienced opinion.

 

Lynda Hill2

Could Rebecca have died & James re married ?

Do you know Rebecca's maiden name ?

 

Just dealing with a family... mother died in 1853 but there was a son born in 1861 I just found a 2nd marriage for the husband

Lynda Hill2

Found this in the GRO index

LegacyUser

Thank you for your input, but no. There is a household record England & Wales Census 1871 that lists

James (47) Rebecca (48)

Elizabeth Harvey Daughter (21)

Sarah Ann Harvey Daughter (2)

 

LegacyUser

What would I do with this index shot? Thanks!

Lynda Hill2

sorry just trying to help

sometimes having the mother's maiden name will confirm the right parents

 

Happy hunting

LegacyUser

thank you! Is there a way to search Sarah Ann Harvey born in Manchester inbetween the years 1867-1870?

Does the general public have access to them?

Paul W

Marjorie

 

I have just searched the GRO births index for HARVEY births with a mother with maiden name RO(D)GERS and found the following:

 

Samuel 1848, Elizabeth 1850 (spelled RODGERS), Ann 1852, Alice Ann 1854, Thomas 1857, Maria 1859, John 1862, Rebecca 1863, James 1866, Sarah Ann 1869 (spelled ROGERS).

 

FreeBMD website has the Dec 1846 Qtr. marriage of James Harvey & Rebecca Rogers at Manchester.

 

I have not checked the GRO deaths index for these "additional" children. Either they had died before the 1871 census or were in another household on the night of the census. It is also possible they were the children of another Harvey / Rogers couple.

 

The important factor is that there is probably not a 19 year gap between children, as might appear when looking at the 1871 census. In this case, 46 was probably a quite plausible age for Rebecca to give birth. However, in spite of the GRO index also suggesting Rebecca was Sarah Ann's mother, someone could have lied to the registrar to hide the "fact" that Sarah Ann was, say, Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter!

LegacyUser

 

Thank you so much for your response and time it took to look up. I will look into this!