Ossenheim, Hessen - Familienbuch - Kopp family - transcription help

Debra Palmer01

Familienbuch Ossenheim Johannes Kopp 45.jpg

This Familienbuch entry 98 is for Johannes Kopp and his wife Anna Barbara [maiden name unknown] and their five children. I need a bit of help with the blanks in my transcription and a translation of the note at the end.

The second image is the full page and there is no URL available.

Any help is appreciated!

Debra

[Headings]

[1st] Fam.-Nr

[2nd] Familien, bezw. Familienglieder

[3rd] Personen-No.

[4th] Geburt Jahr. Monat und Tag

[5th] Fam.Nr. der Vorfahren bezw. der Kinder der Familie

[6th] Trauung Zeit

[7th] Tod Jahr. Monat und Tag.

98. Kopp, Johannes. herrschaftlicher Schäfer [he was probably a shepherd working for a Landlord?]. [blank] 1702. [blank] [blank] 1764.29.Nov. Bauernheim.

Anna Barbara. [blank] 1697. [blank] [blank] 1759.2.Januar.

Anna Kathrine. [blank] 1725.13.März 162. K?. 1765. 1812.17.März.

Johann Heinrich. [blank] 1727.24.Okt. 153. [blank] [blank]

Bartholomäus. [blank] 1730.1.Oktober. 164. 1764. 1816.12.April.

Anna Kathrine [blank] 1733.1.Dezr. [blank] [blank] [blank]

Johann Jakob ?rel. [blank] 1737.16.Mai. [blank] 1775.7.9.[September] in Assenh[eim]. [the marriage entry for Johann Jakob Kopp and Catharina Marie Hofmann/Ehwald in Assenhiem is dated 7 Sept 1775, and that date is the same as the date in this Familienbuch]. 1812.19.Nov.

[The note mentions the marriage and death info for Johann Jakob]

? Mitteilung von ? Fr.

Gondolph G?sen [this could possibly be the name of the person providing the info for Johann Jakob?] (O? 59 J) - ? ?uni 1936:

Heiraten ? 7.9.1775 in Assenheim

u[nd] starb (1812. ? 19. Nov.

Ulrich Neitzel

@Debra Palmer01

My additions in bold:

nach einer Mitteilung von ? Fr.

Gondolph Giessen [this could possibly be the name of the person providing the info for Johann Jakob?] (O__weg 59) - ? Juni 1936:

Heiratete er am 7.9.1775 in Assenheim

u[nd] starb dort 1812. am 19. Nov.

I can't read the word before the name; it is probably an occupation or title. The word in brackets is probably an address - hard to read if you don't know the place.

Debra Palmer01

The translation of "nach einer Mitteilung von = following a communication from" confirms to me that the info for Johann Jakob Kopp was likely provided by the person whose name and possible address were written in the note. This is not particularly important (although this person could have been a descendent of Johann Jakob) but it's an interesting detail to read.

Thank you, @Ulrich Neitzel for your additions to the transcription, which are very helpful!

Debra Palmer01

I have just a couple of questions:

The occupation of Johannes Kopp was "herrschaftlicher Schäfer". Would he have been a shepherd who probably worked for a Landlord?

Johann Jakob has a third name, "?rel". Any idea of what this name is?

Ulrich Neitzel

Hello Debra,

I agree that Johannes Kopp was employed as a shepherd by a local (probably noble) landowner.

I am not sure what name or other word follows after Johann Jakob. The initial letter looks like "G", but I can't come up with any name that starts with "Grel".

It seems also strange that there are two daughters named Anna Kathrine, although the first was still alive when the other was born.

Debra Palmer01

Thank you, Ulrich for answering my question about the occupation and trying to come up with a third name "Grel?" for Johann Jakob.

I also thought it is unusual that the daughter Anna Kathrine (born in 1725) was living when her parents gave another daughter the same name. I assume that the church book entries i.e. baptism and death for these children of Johannes Kopp could confirm if the info in the Familienbuch is correct for them.