Can anyone read this baptism record of Maria Gloxin?

ChristinaW8

This is 1766. The very last of the paragraph it says Peter Höffs and Maria Gloxin. I would like to know what it’s saying about them. I have an ancestor named Maria Gloxin who is married to a Ehrenfriedrich Filter in this little town in 1780. Is this Maria’s birth record?

Robert Seal_1

Hello @ChristinaW8,

Unfortunately this is not Maria Gloxin's birth record.

This is the March 1766 baptismal record for a male child named Gottlieb with parents David Gohfisch? and Dorothea Schwartz.

The last four lines of the record identify this child's baptismal sponsors and translate as follows:

Baptismal sponsors were: (1) David Schwartz, the local mayor/magistrate and the mother's brother; (2) Peter Höffs?, a farmhand; and (3) Maria Gloxin, née Schwartz, the mother's sister, a shepherd's wife [or shepherdess].

For future reference: When you post a record for translation, it is very helpful to the translator if you state where the record is from (village, town, city, parish, etc.). This often will help the translator identify surnames, which are frequently the most difficult words to identify in a record.

ChristinaW8

Thank you. The town is Wangeritz, near Pflugrade. Sorry, I’ll do that next time.

So now I’m even more intrigued because I’m also related to David Götzch which is my 6th great grandfather. He is on the birth record of my ancestor, but I didn’t know his wife’s name. And David Schwarz is also a relative. Maria is the right one, because her father is the Shepherd of Marsdorf. What does Maria Gloxin née Schwarz mean? Her sister is Regina Gloxin so I know that’s the maiden name. What does née mean?

Again, thank you so much.

ChristinaW8

Is it shepherd’s wife or shepherdess? If it’s the later it could be Regina’s sister...but if it’s the former it might be her mother, because actually she’d only be a little child of a few years if it’s Regina’s sister. She gets married in 1780 and has children over the next 20 years alongside Regina who marries in 1792.

Do you think it’s saying Maria Gloxin, the shepher’s wife and her maiden name was Schwarz?

Robert Seal_1

You're welcome, @ChristinaW8.

Re: Maria Gloxin:

Do you think it’s saying Maria Gloxin, the shepher’s wife and her maiden name was Schwarz?: Yes, that's exactly what it is saying.

Gloxin is Maria's married surname. Maria's maiden surname is: Schwartz. So Maria Schwartz married a man with the surname Gloxin.

In English the word "née" is used to identify a woman's maiden surname, for example, Mary Jones née Smith = Mary Jones whose maiden name is Smith.

In the context of this record, I would interpret the word "Schäferin" as more likely to be: shepherd's wife.

Here are the relationships you can identify in this record:

Maria (Schwartz) Gloxin is the sister of Dorothea Schwartz, the child's mother.

Maria (Schwartz) Gloxin is the sister of David Schwartz, the first baptismal sponsor.

Maria (Schwartz) Gloxin is married to a man with the surname Gloxin, and she is likely a shepherd's wife.